Allen Accomplice: Vintage 30, G12H30, Century Vintage?

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  1. Think Floyd

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    Many people love the Celestion G12H30 in a Deluxe Reverb (or Allen Accomplice). My concern is that the 30 watt speaker will not be able to handle a cranked 22 watt amp. Is it possible that the G12H30 will actually handle more than 30 watts, and is rated conservatively?

    My new (to me) Accomplice has a 30 watt Weber Alnico Blue Dog, and I've decided to replace the Weber with a higher wattage speaker. The Weber "seems" as if it could handle the Accomplice, but while I love the tone when it's turned up, I don't care for it at lower volume when the speaker isn't being pushed. Since most of my playing will be at low volume, I want a different speaker.

    A few years back I tried another Accomplice through a Celestion Vintage 30 and a G12H30 speaker, and liked both of them better than the stock Eminence Red White and Blues.

    As a lousy rhythm guitarist who likes to play a wide range of music (everything from Oldies to Motown/R&B to Black Sabbath), which speaker would be a better fit for me? Will the G12H30 survive a cranked Accomplice on the few occasions that I'll get to play in a band setting? Maybe someone has experience with the Neo Century Vintage, and could compare that to the other two?
     
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  2. Rumble5

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    Celestions are pretty hardy speakers. I would think a G12H would be able to handle the wattage of a DR unless you're running it wide open most of the time.

    But if you want to be extra safe:

    If you order a speaker from Weber or Scumback you can get a British voiced speaker like the ones you're referring to, but have them built to your own specs. For instance, a G12H is a 30 watt speaker with a 50oz magnet. They can build you a speaker that's voiced similar to the G12H with a 50oz magnet that handles 65 watts so you never have to worry about blowing it. Also, the G12H came with either a 75hz cone or a 55hz cone, and you can choose which type of cone you want.

    I put two Weber Legacies in my '66 Pro Reverb, both with 30oz magnets for early breakup, 65 watt capability, one with a 55hz cone for thick, creamy tones, and one with a 75hz cone for a little more crispness and bite. Very happy with the results.

    So if you're looking for a British tone there are lots of options for getting the exact blend you're looking for.
     
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    I liked a Weber 12F150 in my AA. Plenty of clean tone. You have the Master and Raw controls to dial in amp OD and gain
     
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    I have a Tone Tubby 40/40 in my Accomplice and it is excellent as well. Really balanced across the EQ with a bit of a smoky vibe to it, really nice.
     
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    I pummel a Chinese Celestion G12M rated at 25 W in a Sweet Spot using 6L6's which is also rated at 25 watts. It's been in there and abused for 3 or 4 years and sounds great with no issues.
     
  6. Think Floyd

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    Thanks for the replies. I'm thinking Celestion only because those are the speakers that I've actually heard with an Accomplice, and I'd prefer not to spend a lot of time and money trying out a multitude of speakers.

    Some like the WGS speakers better than the Celestions. They do have a 50 watt clone of the G12H30 (Reaper HP), but youtube video demos don't really help me.

    Ideally I'd love a Neo to lighten the amp by a few pounds, but there are so few options. I just want something with a nice clean tone that will also sound good with OD and Distortion.
     
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    I've tried a lot of different speakers in my Accomplice - A Gold, Blackbird, Elegante, Weber Blue and Silver, Greenback, RW&B, Wizard, others... My hands down favourite is the Creamback 75H! The 65M didn't have the low-end reach or sparkle in this amp, but the 75H is perfect. Highly recommended.
     

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