Allright..What is the ULTIMATE Blackface/12" speaker???

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  1. michael.e

    michael.e Supporting Member

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    I need an 8 ohm speaker for my Tone King Continental. I robbed the speaker for my 8 ohm 4-12.

    If you had any choice, barring any financial issues, what would you get?


    Thanks,
    Emee
     
  2. GAT

    GAT Gold Supporting Member

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    I like Celestions or British speakers.
     
  3. re-animator

    re-animator Senior Member

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    gotta be JBLs. voice of the godz.
     
  4. hathisisfunnyha

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    Jensen C12N is the epitome of Blackface tone hands down
     
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  6. bluesmann8

    bluesmann8 Senior Member

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    Email Mark from tone king and get one of his 12" speakers. Its a hemp cone with a high sensitivity guessing like 102 db. Or get a cannabis Rex.
     
  7. Wesman61

    Wesman61 Supporting Member

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    I really like the Emi RW&B.
     
  8. pete kanaras

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    for my money

    #1, a real, original cone jensen C12N. forget the reissue

    #2, an eminence cannibis rex. to my ears it sounds like a really well broken in C12N, but more composed when wound up. it is Not a tone tubby, which is what i assumed when i heard "hemp cone". no no. it is a superb speaker, i'm ordering my 2nd soon.
     
  9. CitizenCain

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    "I like Celestions or British speakers."

    "gotta be JBLs. voice of the godz."

    "Jensen C12N is the epitome of Blackface tone hands down"

    "Naylor or reverend"

    :rotflmao How can you not love The Gear Page?
     
  10. cbpickin

    cbpickin Tweed Supporting Member Silver Supporting Member

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    The Naylor SD50 is very nice for BF tones, but I also like G12H30's in there. The Naylor is like a mix of the Jensen and Celestion tone and is amazing clean. Overdriven, I prefer the G12H style.
    In my Fargen, I keep putting the Emi Wizard back in after everything I try, including a G12H30.
    For accurate Deluxe tones, the Weber 12F150 is the perfect repro speaker.
     
  11. ROKY

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    I run:

    A TopHat Ambassador 100(BF Twin w/ extended mids & stellar 'verb !)

    Or :

    TopHat Embassy(4 6V6's, 2 channels covering Brown & Tweed tones)
    into an early 70s Traynor open back 2x12 w/ a pair of 8 ohm C.Rex's
    wired to a 4 ohm parallel load.

    The Rex's really handle the full gamut of vintage Fender tones, credibly.

    They don't make these amps sound British(I've got Celestions for that !)
    but they DO allow the overdrive tones to have some nice girth, sting
    grind to single notes and chords.

    Exactly what I was after in bringing out the authentic voices of these
    two amps.

    I think it would work great in that Tone King.
     
  12. johnspeck

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    naylor/reverend 12 is great. clean/dirty, pretty cool thing going on and sounds really good with a blackface.
     
  13. bluesmann8

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    I think the rex is just as good as the orignal speaker that comes in the TK. I think there a lot of speakers that will work well in the TK amps. I just got my EV SRO alnico "coffee can" 12" back from Weber but have'nt tryed it yet but those always worked well in fender styled amp as well. Mark said something about trying a green back so there's another. I'd stay away from a V30 tho.
     
  14. hogy

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    So do I. It's (almost) all I use. That said, I don't find Celestions to be a good tonal fit with a blackface amp's frequency response. Celestions + Tweeds = killer.
    BF, not so much to my ear.

    Vintage original cone C12N would be my vote.
     
  15. sickboy79

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    Same here - Greenbacks and G12H30s sound wonderful with BF Fender amps, IMO.
     
  16. Gris

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    Well, it really depends upon the tone you are going for. I have yet to find one speaker that excels at everything. If you want the consumate Fender clean then the best speakers are well broken in D120F, Altec or old Jensen (particularly the ones w/ alum dome). If you want a warmer or 'woodier' clean tone, there are many more choices, such as Greenback, etc. The aforementioned EV SRO 'coffee can' alnico is an outstanding speaker in a BFDR. OTOH, if you are into using higher gain pedals the speakers with a little more high end rolled off than the alum domes work better. You also need to consider whether you want an efficient (loud) speaker which add headroom or an inefficient speaker which will also lower volume amp distortion, as well as whether you want speaker coloration/breakup. I could help you better if you would describe your playing style and context.
     
  17. amc

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    My favorite, hands down, would be SRO alnicos (white coffee can).

    The EV Force 150W 12" is also great for blackface tones.

    just my 2 cents........
     
  18. Ed DeGenaro

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    Big fan of Celestion V30s in Deluxes...I'm likely the only one.
     
  19. Bluesjam

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    If you read this thread it sounds like every speaker sounds good in a BF. Maybe it's because BF's just sound good.
     
  20. Gris

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    We tend to recommend warmer speakers in the BFDR we service because these amps unmodded tend to be rather bright. But that's just our ears.
     

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