alternate picking sequence...

hopkinWFG

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hi been a sweep picker but tired of doing all thoese "between strings inside picking" if you knpw what I mean..i adopted alternate pick lately and found the sequence picking to be different if your to start with up stroke down and up the strings than to a down stroke cross the strings.. how many of.you guys here only stick to one picking sequence? or you guys have no trouble at all having to pick with starting up or down stroke?
 

pima1234

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I wish. It's a good problem to have, actually.

I'm a lefty that plays righty. All kinds of right hand issues.

Every player has their own style. Some style comes more naturally to some guitarists.

Wouldn't we all love to have a Bruce Lee approach?!
 

hopkinWFG

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yeah I do know is better to have or polish all type of technique... but alternate picking is something I find it kinda misleaded especially when u ended up with two different way of picking sequence when statting woth up stroke or down stroke... just take it that when playing at high speed do you kinda keep track of hpw u ended up with?
 

guitarjazz

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hi been a sweep picker but tired of doing all thoese "between strings inside picking" if you knpw what I mean..i adopted alternate pick lately and found the sequence picking to be different if your to start with up stroke down and up the strings than to a down stroke cross the strings.. how many of.you guys here only stick to one picking sequence? or you guys have no trouble at all having to pick with starting up or down stroke?
Check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XBJNaPYfEg
 

gennation

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If I practice it, I practice both ways of starting with an up and down stroke. But went I'm playing it could be either, just which one feels the most second nature.
 

speedyone

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I have studied economy picking and strict alternate extensively, and I simply apply each approach intuitively based upon how I feel the music should sound.

If I want the scale/sequence to sound immediate or more staccato, I alternate pick. If I want it to sound fluid, or create a "Diminuendo" effect when playing a descending scale, I use economy/sweep picking.

There is no right or wrong approach of course. In general, I tend to use alternate picking on ascending scales, starting with an upstroke, and play descending scales using economy picking also using an upstroke-- mainly because it is very natural to me.

And, let's not forget that some licks you learn or create may have a pattern that is "out of sync" with a strict alternate or strict economy picking scenario... may your picking on a 3 note lick goes down/up/up, then you repeat the symmetrical pattern up or down the neck. (I'd post a diagram, but don't know how to on my keyboard!)

Finally, in my opinion, using only ONE technique, however immaculately for every playing circumstance can create a less than emotional experience. For example, Michael Angelo Batio plays all of his scalar sequences ONLY alternate picking, and has a very stiff feel to most of his leads. Marshall Harrison is the undoubted king of economy picking, but most of his stuff sound TOO fluid/less emotional, because economy picking by it's nature does NOT emphasize dramatic wrist/hand movements employed by SRV, Zakk Wylde or other heavy handed players. I wish to emphasize that these two players (Harrison, Batio) I cited are indeed amazing and inspiring to me, and "emotion is in the ear of the beholder", but perhaps you can get the point I'm trying to convey.

So do I have any trouble starting with an upstroke vs a downstroke? Nope. After many years it's become intuitive.
 



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