Am I Right To Be Worried About This Reverb Buyer?

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  1. Guitar Josh

    Guitar Josh Resident Curmudgeon Silver Supporting Member

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    So I listed an item on Reverb. Got an offer and accepted. The buyer at first seemed on the up and up but I'm very concerned about going through with it (in fact I already refunded him). Here's the facts:

    1) Address given was:
    9842 Bolsa Ave, Suite 101
    Westminster
    California
    92683-6686
    Vietnam

    2) The address according to Google is a freight forwarder:

    https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=vi&u=http://congtygoiqua.com/&prev=search

    3) The name given on the Paypal was not the name listed as the recipient

    4) The address (obviously) is unconfirmed

    5) Buyer is using a free e-mail domain (gmail.com)

    6) He sent me an e-mail admitting he lives in Vietnam but the above is his "sister's address".

    7) HOWEVER, the user name associated with the buyer has 20+ 5* feedbacks.

    This is a high dollar item that I cannot risk losing. I do not sell internationally and quite frankly given some of the posts about Reverb I have no confidence they will stand behind me. There is just too much here for me to be comfortable with this.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. eSS eSS

    eSS eSS Member

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    Hmmmmmmm...quite a few "iffys" in that deal.

    Could be Legit though.
     
  3. StanG

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    Freight forwarders can be legit. I think I did a sale to Brazil or Argentina once that went through one in Miami. You do have cause to be concerned, though.
     
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    You've sussed it out as a freight forwarder and he has told you it's his sister address. Doesn't bode well.
     
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    seems like a stretch
    have sold pedals on evilbay listed for usa only
    out of country buyers used freight forwarders
    never had an issue
     
  7. MrLahey

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    Follow your gut.
    If it does not feel right dont do it. No regrets.
     
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  8. Guitar Josh

    Guitar Josh Resident Curmudgeon Silver Supporting Member

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    True, but it's just another in a long list of reasons.

    That's pretty much how I feel about it.
     
  9. Rick Lee

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    My first sale here was to a Mailboxes ETC-type place in Arcadia, CA and the buyer was in China. Never had a problem with it. It was for around $450.
     
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  10. Guitar Josh

    Guitar Josh Resident Curmudgeon Silver Supporting Member

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    This is close to $2k. Not that $450 is anything to sneeze at but the value is really giving me pause.
     
  11. Rick Lee

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    If it makes you feel any better, I'm working on a $2800 deal with a buyer in Norway. And last summer I did an eBay deal for $1175 to a guy in Singapore, who wanted me to bypass the eBay Global Shipping program and ship to him directly. I shipped to the eBay address hub and it all worked out fine.
     
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  12. Bogner

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    Have him wire you the money...there are several ways to skin a cat. Get creative and make a deal.
     
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  13. Guitar Josh

    Guitar Josh Resident Curmudgeon Silver Supporting Member

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    Another CONUS buyer has made an offer and we are close so I think there will be a deal there. I really don't like how he hid the fact he wasn't CONUS and told me its his sister when it's a frieght forwarder. If he was honest from the start that would be different.
     
  14. Papanate

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    Why do want thoughts on this? It's a mistake - even if the guy is trying to
    bypass some draconian import fees - he went about it like a scammer.
     
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    marktweedy In Transit® Silver Supporting Member

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    The not honest from the start bit would give me pause.
     
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  16. DustyRhodesJr

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    What I would recommend in this case will shock some people.

    List it on ebay and use the global shipping option. When it sells to a non-USA buyer,
    you just ship it to ebay in KY and they then ship it to the buyer.

    Once ebay receives your item, your responsibility ends, and if anything goes wrong,
    ebay takes care of it.
     
  17. Guitar Josh

    Guitar Josh Resident Curmudgeon Silver Supporting Member

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    I would have no issue using the global buyer program. My issue is using ebay ;)
     
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  18. DustyRhodesJr

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    I agree, but you can't have your cake and eat it, too.

    I would rather let ebay assume the risk on an expensive item than take on the risk
    myself.
     
  19. sixstringfuel

    sixstringfuel Hotdogs kill Silver Supporting Member

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    I sold an r 9 to a guy in Russia And he had it shipped thru a freight forwarder no problems. He knew up front I would not ship outside usa.
    I asked how it worked with PayPal and they told me once it was delivered to the freight forwarder it was no longer my responsibility whatever happened after that was solely on the buyer.
     
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  20. markjsmith

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    Nope, I'd pass. I try and be extremely careful with high dollar transactions though!
     

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