Am I the only one who doesn't like celestion speakers?

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  1. zwiefldraader

    zwiefldraader Member

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    You mean a TMB ain't a vintage circuit and Pulsonic G12H30 55Hz ain't a vintage speaker. Because that's exactly one of my main set-ups.
    BUT you sound like there can't be different opinions, just the truth. And the truth being vintage Celestions are being hands-down the best speakers ever made regardless the style or (vintage) circuit one is using? THAT'S quite a bold statement. I LOVE the sound of vintage Greenbacks of almost any kind, but still tend to disagree. There ARE real world applications in which a more american voice is just more suitable or a single G12M is just too honky, nasally - even vintage ones.

    I referred to your absolute statement it could be different to different people.
    For yourself it might be perfect - but it isn't hard to imagine a blue nor being the best fit for different approach.
     
  2. Bluesful

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    That's fair enough mate.
     
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  3. MrTAteMyBalls

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    Is it just me or is this a very strange thread?
     
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  4. MrTAteMyBalls

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    This is my point exactly.

    I mean, it's just so obvious that I don't understand the OP need to comment on his own dislike for Celestions. They are designed to sound in a way that he would not enjoy so of course he doesn't like them.
     
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    In general, I agree with the OP with some exceptions. I'm trialing some G12-50's in a Twin right now for instance. They aren't voiced like a typical Celestion though. They weigh 7 lb lighter than the Eminence's they replaced...each! I'm committed to make them work, lol.
     
  6. Bluesful

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    Everything is strange.
     
  7. bloozeman1

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    what model of celestion is the WGS fat jimmy based on? Or the eminince GA 64? those are the 2 I'm currently using in my vintage fenders
     
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    My greenback is in a AC15. I do have a Weber British in my AC4 (the stock cheapo Celestion got the boot) and I thought of swapping for a comparison but that’s more work than I wanna do at the moment. But that Greenback just works for me.
     
  9. megatrav

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    There are some Celestion models I like and some that I do not. It also depends on the amp. For instance, I think Greenbacks sound great in Marshall cabs and Vox amps, but not with Fender amps. So, its all about preference.

    I think Eminence speakers are my least favorite. They sound like high powered farts to me.

    There are a lot of great alternatives. I personally like WGS a lot, especially for the $$.

    The thing I have found about Celestions (and most speakers that clone/inspired by them) is that they have to be played loud before they sound how they are "suppose" to sound. There are exceptions, but the Vintage 30 is one example of this IME.

    I'd say my favorite type of speakers are the Celestion G12-65's. I love the Celestions and Weber versions. I also really love the ET65 from WGS. They are less sensitive so, I think they work really well for any volume level and the midrange is in a good spot.
     
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    Also, I'm really itching to try out some Scumbacks, especially his Blackback clones #mojo
     
  11. Eugene'sAxe

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    How you can dislike a brand that produces about 25 totally differently voiced ranges of speakers is beyond me.
     
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  12. bloozeman1

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    how can you dislike tripe when a million other people dont?
     
  13. Chicago Slim

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    I almost always replace the Celestion speakers, that come in amps. The reason is sound and weight. I often don't like the sound. Plus, I'm a front man and I don't want to sing over a middy speaker. They also tend to weigh more on average, than other speakers. Because I'm usually hauling PA equipment, every pound matters.
     
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    Ok, so normally I’m NOT a fan of Vintage 30’s, but I have a really well broken in, made in UK example in a Louis Electric KR12 and it’s the most perfect speaker for that amp. I’ve tried many others and always come back to the Vintage 30 in that amp. Historically I have never liked the Vintage 30’s I’ve heard because of the ear fatigue, usually in the upper mids. My KR12 is a darker voiced amp and it goes perfect with that speaker.
     
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    To me, it’s more of a matter of “right speaker for the job”. I have a 1965 Oxford that cannot be beaten for scooped, BF cleans. But through a Marshall circuit, it sounds like absolute garbage. For that job, a British-voiced speaker like a Greenback is the bomb.
     
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    I don't like current production Celestions either.
    That said, no speaker will ever top a G12H 55Hz Greenback with Pulsonic 14 cones.
     
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    These are the best speakers in the world !!!
     
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    I think a GA 64 is supposed to sound like a Celestion Alnico Blue. I think the 64 represents 1964, and the sound of the Beatles using vox amps with Blue speakers, but i could be wrong.
     
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    Yes, you are wrong.
     
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    I love Greenbacks with Marshall circuits. It's like peanut butter and jelly.
     
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