Am I wrong, or is he? this isnt a am std, right?

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  1. Carabinerx

    Carabinerx Member

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    This is an American Special isnt it? Large headstock, the vintage 6 screw bridge...he swears its a a plain std, but I havent seen those features on something that was a reissue, highway one, or the special....am I just giving him a hard time for no reason? The Special is the cheaper guitar so I dont want to pay Std price for a special

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  2. big mike

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    Special.
    Standards never had large headstocks, and have had 2 screw bridges since the late 80's.
     
  3. GCDEF

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    It's a special. Definitely not a Standard with that headstock.
     
  4. BlackStrat_Fan

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    Looks like the Special to me. To my knowledge it's not really a "cheaper" guitar, meaning they didn't use lesser quality parts. I think it was more of a packaging thing (no case) and different specs (headstock, neck.)
     
  5. gkoelling

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    ^^^Yep!
     
  6. woodbury

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    This is definitely an American Special. If I remember it right, it came out 2 years ago. I love the surf green color and was tempted to get one back then.
     
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    And jumbo frets I believe
     
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    The main differences IIRC are fat 50s pickups vs Texas specials, regular vs 70s headstock, case vs gig bag. I've had both and liked the Standard better, but the Special was decent too.
     
  9. Carabinerx

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    Ok cool, I thought so. I mean I still dig the guitar and the texas specials are hot -- just saw in a review they said the special was fender's attempt at a sub 1K am. strat not using custom shop pickups or lacquered neck to make it cheaper. But I actually prefer both of those features on the special. Thanks guys
     
  10. Boris Bubbanov

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    Well, the tone control is the basic one, not the Delta Tone one;

    The board edge and fret finishing are supposed to be less meticulous. Some clearly are, others who knows;

    The truss rod is a simple single action, not a Dual Action;

    The import Ping P-36 bridge is a cheaper product, the block doesn't impress a magnet. I find the current saddles on an American Standard Strat to be fine; the saddles on the American Special are just a little too crummy - take a magnifying glass to them;

    There's no Microtilt in case that's of any value to this player; and

    Unless I'm mistaken, the Special has 6 matched tuning machines and not the staggered post tuning machines of the Standard.

    That doesn't make the guitar bad, but it does mean it IS decontented.

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    My sense is, when someone is selling something and he THINKS it is a higher level item, he's paid more for it, feels it is worth more even when he learns he did not do his homework right, and he'll be highly resistant to accepting a fair offer. Even if you can close on the guitar, he'll carry a grudge, even though it was his fault, not yours he screwed up.
     
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  11. Carabinerx

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    Im actually trading a bike for it (that I bought at cost) so its not much of an investment for me, plus he said he bought it in a lot of guitars, also offered a LP studio and SG reissue.

    As for the tone control, maybe its just the newer ones, but the greasebucket tone circuit comes on these (now?).
     
  12. John Bell

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    American Special. I prefer it over the American Standard.
     
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    Looks nice enough, but it is not a Standard.
     
  15. Lihns

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    Definately a special. Get it, I love mine
     
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    Gut the grease bucket wiring and go 50s wiring. Put a bone nut on there and sail on into the kingdom of killer strats.


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  17. DirtyJerzey

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    That is a Am. Special. Damn fine guitars. I have the Am. Special Tele and I've wanted the Strat version since I put hands on the Tele. You should be in the 600-700 range on a used one, new is around 1k.
     
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    Seriously, not one comment about 'std'?!?!?

    You guys are slipping.
     
  19. bigtone23

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    +1 to all this.
    The Special is like getting a Fender that is 75% American/25% Mexican. The savings are mostly in lesser hardware, electronics and finish. Great guitars, though. The necks feel great and those large headstocks are my fave.
     
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    It's definitely an American Special because I just bought an identical one. Love the surf green and big headstock. Texas Specials are ok too.
     

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