American Made Fraud? Craigslist

Stratman Dan

Member
Messages
186
Basically, I bought this guitar yesterday and I got the guy down to $450.

But I noticed after I got it home that it is missing that 1 extra fret on the neck, and it appears to be a MIM neck being an American Imposter.

Do you concur or am I over thinking this? IS this American?

It is a pretty guitar though, I just hope I did not get scammed an extra $200 for an overpriced MIM fraud.

http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/msg/4615787800.html
 

bluejazzoid

Silver Supporting Member
Messages
4,465
It looks like a MIM neck... I'm not sure about the body. The serial number (which at least seems legit) dates to being a USA-made Strat from 1998... but that can be added/faked. So, it looks like you've got a partscaster to me... do you have any photos of the body routing, and backside of the pickguard?
 

megawzrd

Silver Supporting Member
Messages
1,321
Neck string trees, tuners, plastic truss insert all looks MIM. Not including the lack of a 22nd fret.
Most all Am stds i have seen 97,98,99 also are 2 point bridge. I'd say MIM with fraudulent neck serial number. Interesting the neck plate has the access hole for the neck angle adjustemnt screw.
 

Guitar Josh

Resident Curmudgeon
Gold Supporting Member
Messages
19,272
Not sure anything on that guitar is genuine Fender MIA. My vote is that you got scammed. Sorry. Nothing looks right about it. Sticker even looks wrong.
 

shawnshack

Member
Messages
2,748
It looks to be a mix of parts. It has a vintage pickguard (8 screws and 1 ply). But I doubt this is a 60's reissue. The saddles don't look right for that and it doesn't have vintage tuning keys. It could be one of the MIA 60's reissues with different saddles and tuners.
 

korby

Senior Member
Messages
10,283
Maybe send a link to this thread to the guy politely telling him you think he got scammed when he bought the guitar and you would like to get some or all of your money back . Maybe he didn't know .
 

Polyester

Member
Messages
950
Unscrew the pickguard and take a look underneath. If the body has a circular hole by the neck pickup it's MIM. Even if it doesn't have a hole, that's still almost certainly not a legit MIA Strat.
 

8len8

Silver Supporting Member
Messages
14,151
Does it play and sound well? If Yes, then does it really matter if it's a fake since you got it for a decent price?
 

Noise Under The Floor

A happy-go-lucky chap, always dressed in black.
Platinum Supporting Member
Messages
11,704
Not related to the USA authenticity but,

"If this post is up....it's still for sale."

Sold it to the OP yesterday. We should bombard him with responses, "Still available?"
 

335guy

Member
Messages
5,228
To be MIA, the tuners would need to say Fender on them. Also, the made in the USA decal would be on the front of the headstock, right under the Fender logo. And the string tree is incorrect. Here's a couple of shots of a 1999 MIA Fender Standard Strat headstock.



 

shawnshack

Member
Messages
2,748
To be MIA, the tuners would need to say Fender on them. Also, the made in the USA decal would be on the front of the headstock, right under the Fender logo. And the string tree is incorrect. Here's a couple of shots of a 1999 MIA Fender Standard Strat headstock.



But this could be a 60's reissue, judging by the pickguard. If someone changed the tuners and saddles then we have an explanation for what's going on.
 

Guitarworks

Member
Messages
10,871
"Somebody stole case so it does not include one...."

Someone stole the case, but not the guitar...and never checked to see if it was in there or wondered why the case felt so light before walking off with it...:huh

At any rate, it doesn't look 100% legit. You could contact the seller, claim it was misrepresented using his photos of the parts in comparison to the real deal, and ask for $200 back. If that doesn't work, at least you got what appears to be a decent used strat. I think a mom & pop guitar shop would probably ask about $450 for a used MIM strat anyway. $450 for a used MIA strat is too good to be true.
 

SouthpawGuy

Member
Messages
2,858
The one on CL ....





My '93 Am Std




Mine has been modded with different pickguard and pickups

Looks like the OP has been scammed, lots of things are wrong. An Am Std should have an 11 hole pickguard, 22 fret neck, two point trem, block type saddles, Fender branded tuners, different string trees. I also have a '97 Am Std with maple neck which is identical to my rosewood one, unfortunately I don't have pics of that one.

In '93 the serial # was on the front of the headstock, by '97 it was on the back.
.
 

hardtail01

Member
Messages
117
It's a hodge podge of parts that may or may not be Fender parts. Overpriced at even $450. I'd talk to the seller and tell him he sold you a fake guitar and try to undo the deal. It probably won't happen, as you should know what you're buying before you buy it. But it never hurts to try.
 






Trending Topics

Top