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an ethical question (music/gear related)

What do you do??

  • Return it to famous player, refuse payment...a gift to your idol

  • sell it to your idol, but refuse anymore than what you paid

  • return it to your idol, for what you paid, but accept reward if offered...

  • sell it to your idol for a profit,,,its worth what he will pay

  • Try to sell it on the open market...

  • Keep it and dont tell a soul!!


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This is just hypothetical as these things DO NOT EVER happen to me...

Say you go into music store/pawn shop and see a great guitar (gibson, fender...dont matter)

You buy it, get home, google the serial number and find out it was stolen from (insert famous guitar player here, Jimmy page, Slash, Eddie V halen...dont matter)...a long time ago
do you return it, sell it, seek reward???
What do you do??
 

big e

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I'd contact the original owner and return it. That's just the way I am! If it was your guitar that was stolen wouldn't you want it returned. I 52 yrs I've learned that what you give is what you get!
 

Kappy

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If I found out it was stolen, the police (and possibly a lawyer) would be involved, I'm afraid.
 

Pat Healy

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I would play the Star Spangled Banner on it, set it on fire, then return it to my idol.
 

Steve73

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Well, I would put myself in the place of the person who's guitar was stolen. I would sure appreciate it if someone found it that they would return it. Sure the guy's you mentioned have a zillion guitars and are well off, but it was/is their property.
 

B_of_H

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first of all I don't have any 'idols', d00ds are d00ds.

second, take the 'idol' for whatever you can. It's the american way.
 

chucke99

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How could you not want to return it? At the very least, you could work it so you got to meet your idol (or even if it wasn't your idol, say, like it was Clapton or Beck). You might get a reward, too, or maybe backstage passes.

At worst, his lawyer would show up to take the guitar and you'd be out everything, but then at least, you did the right thing.

Now, in real life, I'm not ever going to "Bing" a serial number on any guitar I buy from a pawn shop. That is their responsibility, not mine.

But just imagine if you found Randy Bachman's stolen Gretch! The man might buy you a house as a reward. I'd love to meet Randy.
 

Pat Healy

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second, take the 'idol' for whatever you can. It's the american way.
Almost. The American way would be: keep the stolen guitar and wait for the cops to show up. When they do, mouth off to them enough so that they beat the **** out of you. Then sue them, and sue your idol, because if it wasn't for his stupidly allowing the guitar to get stolen, you wouldn't be in this position.

There really should be a poll option for that.
 

Adam Zaiger

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None of the above. I would report the fact that I was in possession of a purportedly stolen instrument to the authorities, while asserting my right to keep the instrument as a bona fide purchaser for value (presuming that is the case). I would also have my lawyer inform the "idol" in question's lawyer to make it clear that I am very sorry for what has happened and let it be known that, after the legal status of the instrument is resloved (after all, it's now a piece of evidence in connection with a crime), I would be more than willing to see if we could work out a like-kind exchange that makes us both happy.
 

PedalFreak

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I know a couple guys there were friends with the guy that found George Harrison's '57 Les Paul. He bought it in a Guitar Center in Hollywood, paid $400 for it. Took it back to Mexico, then someone from Harrison's camp found out and went to the guy. The guy told them that he would only give it back if he got a similar guitar in trade. So they ended up coming back and getting the guy and driving to California to some hotel, this guy walks in and there is George sitting on the bed playing a 1958 Les Paul, George gives it to that guy for the '57 Cherry Les Paul. And they sat there and played for a while. My friend told me some more stuff about it that was pretty funny.

The story is in the Beatles gear book.

That's what I'd probably do, get my money out of it, or a piece of gear that is equal to what I paid. Because I don't want to be out of what I paid.
 

MartinPiana

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Is it any different depending on who owned it before? If it wasn't somebody famous, would you still return it?
 

Jon Silberman

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None of the above. I would report the fact that I was in possession of a purportedly stolen instrument to the authorities, while asserting my right to keep the instrument as a bona fide purchaser for value (presuming that is the case). I would also have my lawyer inform the "idol" in question's lawyer to make it clear that I am very sorry for what has happened and let it be known that, after the legal status of the instrument is resloved (after all, it's now a piece of evidence in connection with a crime), I would be more than willing to see if we could work out a like-kind exchange that makes us both happy.
This is fairly close to how I analyzed the situation. Key difference is I'm taking into account that legal title to the instrument may well, presently, reside with an insurance company rather than the idol. This is why you do NOT simply give it to the idol, you contact the authorities and let the investigation occur. You also may have a cause of action against the seller for at least the return of what you paid for a guitar for which the seller lacked title.
 

Jon C

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what Jon S said ... I may claim to be BFPV but doubt I would have good legal title.
 

derekd

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This is fairly close to how I analyzed the situation. Key difference is I'm taking into account that legal title to the instrument may well, presently, reside with an insurance company rather than the idol. This is why you do NOT simply give it to the idol, you contact the authorities and let the investigation occur. You also may have a cause of action against the seller for at least the return of what you paid for a guitar for which the seller lacked title.
I agree with you and Adam.
 

tbp0701

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It doesn't matter who owned it, I'd return it. I had instruments stolen after a gig and I'd still love to get them back, even 20 years later.
 

Chiba

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I would return the instrument to its rightful owner - idol or not - and expect to be reimbursed (by somebody - seller, authorities, insurance co, or original owner) what I paid out.

Plus maybe lifetime backstage passes :)

--chiba
 

KungFuLio

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I would get the police involved and let them deal with it and get my money back from the bastards that were selling stolen goods...

with police assistance of course
 

mondaythursday

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I own a Silvertone guitar that was previously owned by a somewhat famous dude. But I don't believe it was stolen. And I don't think it was the only Silvertone like it he had.
 




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