An example of why some people might think Gibson gouges the consumer.

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  1. MikeMcK

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    True. When you calculate the optimal profit-maximizing price (which is never the whole story if you're thinking strategically) you sometimes find that it prices out a huge chunk of your potential market.
     
  2. Da Geezer

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  3. CaptainCrunch137

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    It may cost them a dollar to produce it, but the packaging probably costs like $5. And then you have the distribution costs. Its costs Nike maybe a few dollars to make $100 pair of shoes. But by the time it gets to the store the pair of shoes cost them $50.
     
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  5. Robert Libutti

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    I think there are a few things going on. Yeah, I've clenched my B-hole seeing the prices on this stuff before. When I bought my 2014 LP Studio, they were using that nasty caramel brown plastic. I went to get Stew Mac parts, they cost a fraction of the Gibson stuff...and didn't even remotely fit. Cut completely incorrectly. So I paid shipping, return shipping, then bought standard Gibson stuff from Sweetwater, popped right on. Also, sometimes the real parts are just of better material. The cheaper stuff is often a weird waxy type plastic. I worked at Best Buy in high school and our employee discount was 5% above cost. So stuff like PCs, TVs, CDs, video games, etc. (really a good portion of the product); you might save $.50 on a CD, $2 on a PS (original haha) game. I think on a $1000 computer, I saved about $30. All the money is made in accessories and services, and a few areas like speakers. I got a $10 USB cable for $1.80. My $100 car speakers+4 year warranty+installation cost me $60. So I would guess that Gibson is recovering costs on plastic widgets.
     
  6. Boogie92801

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    Related, charging three grand or more for a guitar that has poor fret work, unadjusted truss rod, crappy intonation and file marks on the binding is ludicrous.

    On almost every factory Gibson I have seen you need to spend $150+ out of the box for s set up. This includes Historic guitars. You don't need to do that on a fender or a PRS....
     
  7. Hackdog69

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    I’m no Gibson fanboy buy any stretch, grew up on fenders, then PRS.. I Recently bought a few Gibson’s. A 2014 SG (NOS) 2018 SG, and a 2018 R9,
    Your statement is simply not accurate in my experience, none on them needed anything but the gauge strings I use, slight intonation adjustment, and setting the action where I like it... didn’t cost a dime.
    And frankly I thought the SG’s where a great value for the cost...
     
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  8. Riq

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    I feel like this is a dealer responsibility also. Guitars get shipped, sit in warehouses and go through so many environmental changes in the early on. If a 3k+ guitar has any of those issues I have more of an issue with the dealer selling them rather than the builder.
     
  9. Spooky Action

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    I bought a customized one with anything I wanted cut into it for $20.
     
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    Odd. My 2013 '61RI has a plain black one. I was shorted. I must investigate further.
     
  11. FLYING V 83

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    Mine is the Sideways Vibrato version, maybe that's why?
     
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  14. twotone

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    If it were me I'd just buy a blank bell-shaped truss rod cover that would fit a Gibson.
     
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  16. OldHootOwl

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    This doesn't work as a defense of Gibson but it makes perfect sense as an exhortation to everyone to please be better consumers and not pay Gibson prices.

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    This is accurate insofar as Cadillac is a poorly aging legacy brand that used to represent the finest in desirable luxury automobiles but now is understood to be overpriced, relatively poor quality with shoddy QC from a poorly managed company that continues to exist for 20th century nostalgia purposes only.
     
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  17. Bogner

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    You need those terms at that price...lol.
     
  18. Stinky Kitty

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    Last week I gleefully paid $7 for a bucket of butter-drenched popcorn so yeah, I'm out of this "the price is too damn high" conversation. :p
     
  19. stevieboy

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    Dude, one puny little trussrod cover, instead of seven whole buckets of popcorn???!!!! Get your mind right.
     
  20. pup tentacle

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    I'm wasn't saying they don't charge Porsche prices, it's just that the consistency and QC aren't there. No one has to test drive multiple brand new 911s to find a good one.
     

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