Annoying thing about digital delays

I do not remember having that happen with my DD-6 or DD-7.

 

Yeah same here. I use 2 DD7's with a SHO running just before them and I don't have that problem.

 

It is the Lofi setting working as it is supposed to I believe. That setting, along with the Tape and Analog settings are supposed to distort with a hot signal because the effect they are emulating would do the same. I believe the fact is the opposite - that digital delays have a higher headroom, ie try the 2290 setting, I'll bet it won't distort with the same signal amplitude.

I had the same issue though and I found the Toneprint's to be better than the on-board settings - better overall as well as headroom. I use the Matt Beck Echo almost exclusively, which is designed to have more headroom than the other Echo settings.

 

I spent the last two days comparing the Flashback against a very nice top of the line analog delay trying to decide which one to keep. I have another all purpose analog delay. I kept the Flashback to put on the board because of tap/strum tempo and other features. Never had tap tempo and always used analog delays. Now I cannot imagine not having it (even though its strum tempo is a little funky at first but I am getting the hang of it).

The real Analog delay pedal was voiced different and has repeats on the lower notes so the bass sounds bigger and more rounded highs. But ultimately the strum tempo made it and the other chorus/vibrato/toneprint goodies sealed the deal for me.

I am playing single coils into dirt pedals before the Flashback and can control the input signal to the Flashback. I have not detected any distortion even though I see some of their toneprints purposely have dirt in the toneprint. I suspect if I was playing hot humbuckers it could overload the input or running a pedal super hot.

 

i'm not sure if this is the same issue that i had w/ my old
EH 16 ddl-ri

if you give it a clean signal it would handle it fine, and you could loop it, mangle it, etc. but if you wanted to loop the clean signal, but then play over it w/ a fuzz-tone (or distorted) signal, there was something in output construction of the pedal, that would not allow the fuzz sound to really come through. an engineer explained it to me about what EH did, he told them about it, but they ended up having the 16 ddl-reissue only on the market for a short time, and replaced it w/ the EH 2880.

i've never had any of these issues w/ my digitech dl8-which i use the 8 sec of delays to create loops and play over. it will allow a hot/distorted signal to pass through just fine.....

 

i've had some headroom issues with a carbon copy and an el cap in the loops of some amps, and after boosts. but i never had any headroom problems with a boss dd3 or dd7 in the same situation, they always sounded good.

 

Precisely. Some Flashback modes are made with lower headroom on purpose according to what they are emulating. On top of that, the pedal itself can handle line level signals which are hotter than instrument level, and I also believe - don't quote me - that the voltage is bumped up inside. Furthermore, I can't really remember analog delays being famous for their headroom... quite the opposite, in fact.

 

I've never had that issue with my PCB MP Deep Blue Delay when using it with a boost. Never tried using it with an envelope filter.

http://www.mpamp.com/pedal/pedals-dbd.html

 

Something else to consider is that you may have inadvertently been hitting it with a signal that was too hot. Like if you had a pedal before it with its output level cranked. It's possible that you went beyond the Flashback's available headroom.

Sometimes it can be good to bypass all your pedals and listen to how loud the straight signal is, then make sure your affected level is close to the same.

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Okay, I just tried slamming my Flashback with a super loud signal and found that it will indeed distort. With a signal that's even close to a normal level I get no distortion.

 

Whoops, I just reread your original post and realized your point is specifically about hitting your Flashback with a hot signal. Sorry about that!

My guess is that the levels required to make a Flashback distort would also make an analog delay distort.

 

I've never had a problem like this with any delay I've had. Could something be wrong with the pedal itself?

 

As has been mentioned, headroom is intentionally crappy in some of the Flashback modes....to make them sound more analog. That's part of what is "warm", I suppose, about analog. Same goes for the Hardwire DL-8.