Another day, another delay thread...Adding an Analog Delay to my Timeline

btdvox

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Hey all,
I've been pondering the thought of buying a PT-Nano and putting my delay pedals onto it.

I feel like I'm missing something everytime I turn on my Timeline's dBucket mode, it's not that it sounds bad, but it sounds too hi-fi and more over bright.

I had a Memory Lane Jr before it, and really enjoyed it, it had its own shortcomings, primarily the Modulation wasn't too tweakable and the tone was static (which isn't a bad thing as it sounded great). On it's own I found it was not enough, and moved up to the Timeline but I miss having darker and a bit more "stark" repeats if that make sense, on the dBucket mode I can't seem to get the repeats to feel "significant", rather they fade. I end up using the Digital mode, but obviously that has a different sound.

So question is, what do I get? Money ain't too big of a deal, I'd like to be around 500 bucks, but I have the Memory Lane 2 in my sights also.

Things needed; Tap Tempo, amazing Modulation, Quarter Note and 8th Note sub divisions.

My main competitors, MEmory Lane 2, MEmory Lane Jr (althought no analog, the argument can be made...), JHS Panther, ARDX20, maybe a DMM? Any other suggestions I should look at?
 
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You can't go wrong with a DMM! And, though this is more than the $500 you specified, the Moog MF-104M sounds great, can get some super long delay times for a true analog pedal (over 800ms from my understanding), and has tap tempo. While it doesn't have a chorus/vibrato-style modulation, the LFO section allows for some really creative and unique delay sounds that you won't hear anywhere else. Also no 8th note subdivisions, but you could conceivably tap that in using the tap tempo.

Reading this back, it sounds like the Moog may not be what you're looking for, but I'd say it's worth checking out a demo or two anyway. If I remember right, JustNick did a really good one not too long ago.

Hope you find what you're looking for!
 
btdvox

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Haha that's two good opinons, I'll have to try one out!

Theres just so many options. I'm thinking of different combinations out there, I know that I'll keep my Timeline on the PT-Nano. But I'm looking into a combo of Montavillian + ML Jr for a ton of options. Montavillian for dark ambient repeats, ML Jr for normal bucket delay tones and Timeline for Digital and Tape modes.

I guess a big question for me is, I see alot of people rever the ML Jr, even more than the Memory Lane 2 itself, is there a reason other than price for it?
 
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Well, you'll never truly be sure until you've tried 'em.

For me, the Memory Lane 2 is the winner for excellent tone and beautiful modulation. (I also have a big box DMM and a DMMTT 1100 to compare it against, as well as other analog delays).

But in the opinion of a good friend of mine, it's the big box DMM that nails it, in particular the modulation. (For the record, we both have one of the first-run 90s RIs with the hard wired power and mn3005 chips). And he's spent plenty of time toying around with my ML2 and DMMTT.

And clearly, splopeshoulder puts the DMMTT at the top of the heap.

Sooo, if money really isn't an issue, maybe buy a few, keep your favorite and sell the others?

Or, just get a Memory Lane 2. ;)
 
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FWIW, I returned my DMMTT as soon as I nailed its sound with the Timeline.
80% of my presets are in dbucket mode.
I love it.
 
ajoel32

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DMMTT sounds like it fits exactly what you described your looking for. I have a Timeline, ML2 and DMMTT, and the DMMTT is on my board.

I have a backup DMMTT that I'd sell ya for far less than 500. That way you can try it out, and you won't lose any money on a resell if it's not for you. ;)
 
btdvox

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slopeshoulder said:
FWIW, I returned my DMMTT as soon as I nailed its sound with the Timeline.
80% of my presets are in dbucket mode.
I love it.
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haha!

I'll try a DMMTT tomorrow out, a friend in another band has the 1100 version.

But I'm intrigued by two options right now:

A) ML Jr + either a Montavillian, Echo Puss or Anamnesis

B) ML 2

Just so it's somewhat clear, I'm not really into the facade of Analog being better than Digital. I know it usually is, but Strymon has made me a believer in that some sounds can just be replicated so well in this day and age. My Strymon Flint's Spring Verb rivals my Victoria's tube spring reverb for example.

I guess what I'm getting at is, I'm looking for a delay that can get me both repeats that cut through a mix and stand out while sounding warm (ML Jr did this for me), and a delay (or the same delay) that can give dark, warm repeats (which means something with a tone knob usually!), 500-600ms is all I need, and it seems the ML 2 has a tone knob and good modulation.
 
btdvox

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Here's a good question.

Montavillian vs AD999 vs Echo-Puss (I know this one is new, so many probably haven't tried it yet), looking for warm, dark repeats.
 
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btdvox said:
Here's a good question.

Montavillian vs AD999 vs Echo-Puss (I know this one is new, so many probably haven't tried it yet), looking for warm, dark repeats.
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I have the AD999 Pro and Echoczar Quad. The latter has fantastic modulation options. I wouldn't describe the AD999 as warm and dark.... I would look at the Moog 104M if that's what you want. It also has great modulation options in line with all of Moogs gear.
 
btdvox

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I've heard the AD999 is warmer and grittier than The Pro version. I think it's between Montavillian and AD999
 
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I use the timeline and AD999 (regular version). Dark, thick repeats... and the decay is just perfect. The decay on the tl is ok... But I much prefer the ad999.

Sean Meredith-Jones
www.seanmeredithjones.com
 
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To me the AD999 isn't a go to if you want the delay to be obvious in a band situation. I can keep it on all the time and it's never intrusive, but noticeable when disengaged. I use it as a thickener. Generally the output is at noon and the repeats are minimal... Like around 9 o'clock. I never time it to the music either... but generally the speed is around 2'oclock.

Sean Meredith-Jones
www.seanmeredithjones.com
 
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