Any baritone/down-tuning guys here?

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  1. guitguy28

    guitguy28 Member

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    I bought a guitar that I tune exclusively in standard tuning, but down to C:
    C F Bb Eb G C

    I love the sound of it. Ever since I heard a guitar tuned that low, I always felt that the low E, a lot of the time, just wasn't low enough for me anymore.

    I like bass a lot, too. I even considered switching over to a Chapman Stick several years ago. But I just like guitar too much.

    Baritone tunings, or tunings with down-tuned low strings, just do it for me.

    I also use a lap steel with a low CGCCGC tuning and it just sounds unbelievable.

    I'm currently working with a singer-songwriter who often uses a capo to suit her range. So the blend is pretty cool.

    Charlie Hunter is a guy who had to get a custom instrument to suit his desire for low end. But there's also guys like acoustic fingerstylists Don Ross and Andy McKee who do a lot in the low end.

    What do you guys think about baritone? Any observations, thoughts, experiences to share?
     
  2. Jeffj

    Jeffj Supporting Member

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    I have a Esquire baritone made from Warmoth parts that I have been playing several yrs. It goes to every gig with me & is a great tool.
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    My dad has a baritone acoustic that i got to play this summer on vacation.
    What a blast!
    wonderful piano sounding chords.
    v cool...
     
  4. Voiceofasoul

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    Most of my stuff has been either DGCFAD or CGCFAD. I love the crunch of it all, but I still keep a guitar in E and one in Eb. Standard really seems to bring out the mids, which is really fun for thrashy material. I also have a homemade 7 (just more comfortable to my hands than a baritone) that I tune to GDGCFAD, to get that ultimate heavy, lol. Anyone know what Ion Dissonance tune to? They sound like seven strings, but for the life of me I can't figure how the hell they make that ungodly low end.
     
  5. KRosser

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    Jerry Jones Baritone here, tuned B-E-A-D-F#-B
     
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    mad dog Silver Supporting Member

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    That's the stuff! My buddy loaned me one once for two weeks, been looking for one just like it ever since. Great sounding guitars.
     
  7. Bing James

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    Jerry Jones Baritone here as well....black Neptune singlecut, 2 p/up tuned B to B .
    I have switched to playing baritone all night at every gig. I'm in a duo with my pal playing on his Martin D35 and Taylor T5. Since we have no bass, this is a killer combo tonewise and adds plenty of piano-like bottom. I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Check out my baritone hero...Tonedr... this guy is THE BEST!!!!
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Lvt22pqxvo&feature=related
     
  8. TaronKeim

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    I have been tuning standard a whole tone down since I started playing guitar... I've almost always played extended scale guitars though - so - with the extra length on the neck providing sustain/whomp it makes the full step down sounds meaty/thick and wonderful.

    Currently playing a 7 string Soloway tuned ADGCFAD.

    _TJK*
     
  9. Sweetfinger

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    I've been playing baritone and baritone tuned guitars quite regularly for about 15 years now. I always liked the sound of baritones- even before I played guitar and knew what they were, I thought that "Slipping Away" by Dave Edmunds had a really cool guitar sound. Later I found that you could buy that tone in an old Danelectro!

    I had a head start among my peers in tuning below standard because my primary guitar influence early on was Tony Iommi and most of the post-Paranoid 1970's Sabbath material is tuned down a couple steps. My formative playing years were the mid- 80's and it was very UNcool to like Sabbath at that time. All my friends guitars had Floyd Rose whammy bars, so they COULDN'T tune down!

    Anyhoo... I discovered that a lot of what I liked in the music of Sabbath, AC/DC, etc. was the blues influence, and I made my deal with Mel Bay down at the crossroads so I could play the TRUE devil's music! ..and where is hell? ..DOWN, of course. ..and when does a guitar sound most cool and evil? When its tuned DOWN! That's how I come to play slide blues on baritones. Here's some of my heroes:

    Mike Henderson- This is the ONLY thing on Youtube from him and does not do his work justice. Look into him if you dig down-tuned blues. My last band was completely modeled after his band 'The Snakes'
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd797zqqg28


    Kid Ramos is one of my heroes and has gradually over the last three or four years been incorporating baritone into his sets. He finally cut a version of this scorcher with his band "Los Fabulocos"
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXigPM-lvMM&feature=related

    The Hacienda Brothers r.i.p. Gaff!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naiRAHQoJ8A&feature=related

    This still gives me the 'chicken skin'.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XngCctzGU7I&feature=related
    and part 2:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vFBG5OIh5A&feature=related

    and a little Jet Harris, one of the wellsprings:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMvAImeb0PQ
     
  10. TaronKeim

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    As far as I know they tune 2 full steps down on all strings. It is possible they do Drop E tuning with the Low G though.

    www.sevenstring.org will have fellas that can tell you for sure, but there are a LOT of Ion Dissonance threads to go through if you do a search, easier to just start a thread!

    _TJK*
     
  11. Mayflower

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    Dano Hodad B to B
    Sometimes A to A
    Add a capo in the mix and it really starts to get fun.
     
  12. mcknigs

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    I've been playing a Dano bari with a particular band going back about 8 years. I use it about 20% of every show. I've thought that it would be cool to do singer/songwriter shows using the Dano and a capo.

    I've also played around with acoustic guitar in C to C tuning. I have an old Japenese Strat copy with an unusually long scale that I've considered stringing with heavy strings and tuning way down.

    -Scott
     
  13. theroan

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    For metal, I need that drop C!
     
  14. KBR

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    I use regular, but also DGCFAD down a whole step
    I am fixin to try AK's DB Minor some day...Pull The Strings!!

    www.myspace.com/kennyblueray
     
  15. tmaker

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    I love to play my D12-28 tuned down a full step. Think "Here My Train a comin'"
     
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    Yo Slim,

    What guage do you use?

    -Scott
     
  18. Voiceofasoul

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    Thanx for the heads up, I'll look into it.
     
  19. scoob

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    I have an 80's squier strat I tune down to C using EB 12's - no baritone though. Love the sound of it. But you have to be careful with the lowest lows...it gets a little messy with the bass sometimes. Also, I use less gain with this guitar.
     
  20. Branimir

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    Kinda getting this thread up from the dead... Sorry :)

    I use 12-54 and tune to C, the guitar is an Edwards LP with P90's, it's a cool thing since P90's aren't bass heavy and have strong mids so it's virtually impossible to get lost in the mix hehe...

    And there's a silicon fuzz face, diy hiwatt custom 100 clone, 4x12" with two V30s and two Emi V12s.

    No probs with intonation, though 13-56 would help things get "tighter", but I like the loose feeling with the 12-54's... 52 for the thickest string (C) is too flabby, so I prefer 54.

    I like downtuning since fuzz sounds like a truck then and also with a such low tuned bass guitar you get monstrous thick wall of sound with just two instruments.
     

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