Any fans of Paul Kantner's lyrical imagery? Others??

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  1. bobbymack

    bobbymack Supporting Member

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    ... all these years later I often return to many of the Airplane / early Starship songs for musical / writing inspiration.

    I believe that Paul Kantner is responsible for most of the lyrical genius (at least that which appeals to me -- the mystical, eastern flavored, imaginary musings likely aided by regular blasts of some stupefying California bud),

    "Everything looks like some sort of scenery stored in an empty theatre,
    with stars on the ground, fences in the sky, and tears in the curtain of time..."

    or

    "Even Atlantis sank beneath the waves in a day and a night,
    But in a day and a night I could write you a symphony,
    it would be just like a bird and carry my love over mountains"

    How about

    "A tear, to a western man
    Will tell you about salt covered in water
    But a tear, to a Chinese man
    Will tell you about sadness and sorrow, or the love of a man and a woman

    I dunno, but I dig the way the lyrics kind of force you to imagine stuff along with the music. Much more than just psychedelia, no?

    Anybody else I should listen to with this kind of talent for lyrical imagery???
     
  2. loudboy

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    The original Jefferson Starship "Blows Against the Empire" was nominated for a Hugo Award.

    Really great record.
     
  3. roadfilm

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    He's one of the great lyricists. I always seem to go to the mid period stuff. Blows, Sunfighter, Baron Von Tollbooth, Dragonfly and the last couple Airplane albums are faves as well. Songs like War Movie and Twilight Double Leader.
     
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    Certainly is ...

    "Have you seen the stars tonight ... Would you like to go up on A Deck and look at them with me...." :cool:
     
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    That lyric has always made me cringe. It just seems foolish to make facile generalizations like this.

    I like the other lyrics, though.
     
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    I've always had a fondness for Baron, especially Flowers of the Night. Great guitar work by Jorma, and great lyrics.
     
  7. roadfilm

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    Those aren't quite right. "It's like a tear in the hands of a western man he'll tell you about salt, carbon and water." Not to be picky or anything but it changes the meaning quite a bit. I love that line.
     
  8. Pablomago

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    Paul Kantner's autograph is on the pickguard of my Rickenbacker 360-12. I've been a fan since "Jefferson Airplane Takes Off." If you can find it, Check out the "Planet Earth Rock 'n Roll Orchestra" album from the '80's (?). Not to be confused with the PERRO sessions bootlegs. Some of my favorite songs from Paul.
     
  9. Strung Up

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    I thought that was Jerry on that cut; could be wrong though.

    In also really like his mid-period stuff, despite the aforementioned cringeworthy lines (see also lumping Robespierre in a laundry list of visionaries in 'Flowers'.

    One of my favorite encounters in S.F. was grabbing a coffee at Caffe Trieste in North Beach early on a Sunday morning circa ~'93, and Kantner's sitting and talking with a bunch of elderly neighborhood paisanos in the corner.
     
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    "Blows Against the Empire" is a terrific album. One, I think, that has been seriously under valued if not ignored.
    It seems that Kantner wrote many, if not most of my favorite Jefferson Airplane songs:

    Crown of Creation
    We Can Be Together
    Volunteers
    Wooden Ships

    including these from the "After Bathing At Baxter's" album, which might have been his high water mark:

    Young Girl Sunday Blues
    Won't You Try/Saturday Afternoon
    Spare Chaynge
    Watch Her Ride
    Martha
    Wild Tyme
    Ballad of You and Me and Pooneil
     
  11. CharlyG

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    Just an fyi and fwiw, Kantner co-wrote Wooden Ships with Crosby and Stills.....
     
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    Goody, I get to namedrop. Paul Kantner gave guitar lessons to my mother and a few other moms, before Airplane. He taught them "Puff the Magic Dragon."
     
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    Absolutely Love "Blows Against the Empire". Bought it when it first came out. The vinyl is pretty screwed up, Now I just listen to the CD.
    "Oh there's a starship circling in the sky, ever since 1990, they've been building it up in the air, ever since 1980...Hijack the Starship!"
    Ahh, those were the days...
    Bruno
     
  14. bobbymack

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    You know I saw her in a dream…

    There was China in her eyes,
    In a silk and velvet disguise
    She was movin' like a lady,
    Lookin' like a dragon princess.
    ...
    I was shang-hied by her way,
    Hypnotized by the things she would say,
    In the moonlight on the water,
    We were like lovers in another lifetime.
     
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    I thought "Flowers of the Night" was written by Craig's English teacher.
     
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    That smokin' lead guitar was actually played by Craig Chaquico!
     
  17. CharlyG

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    Dang you're right, didn't even have to look it up. As soon as I saw your post I knew! I claim a senior moment....

    Good call!
     
  18. loudboy

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    I'm listening to "Blows Against The Empire" and I'll just add that Jack Casady is absolutely amazing.
     
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    One of the best album covers also.
     

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