Any love for the Fender Elite Flame?

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  1. teestone

    teestone Mostly Regular Member Silver Supporting Member

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    So I finally managed to find my "white elephant" guitar...an early 80's Fender Elite Flame. I borrowed one from a friend for about 3 years. His dad owns a music store and he still refused to sell it to me even though he's a keyboard player....bastard!!!! So I had to find one on my own.

    Anyway, I snagged one off of Ebay for a song about a month ago. Of course with most Ebay guitars, it has some small issues. It needs a setup, a truss rod adjustment, a new input jack, the switches need to be tightened down. Basically, it needs some TLC.

    When I have all that stuff done, I'd like to replace the not-so-wonderful Schaller pickups with something similar too. I'm gonna need something hot like the Schallers, but it MUST sound good in coil-tap mode too. For whatever reason, the coil-tapped sounds on this guitar are great and I don't want to loose that vibe when I change pickups. Any of you guys who own one of these have any suggestions on what I should drop in as replacements?

    Is there any love out there for these underpraised guitars? I'd love to hear what other people think of these!:JAM
     
  2. veldt666

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    I fitted one with SD "Seth Lovers",
    (rewound 4 conductor, recovered & potted), it's now one of the best sounding guitars I own, a great soft woody airy tone.
     
  3. Berlin Chris

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    I have an 1984 Esprit Standard, currently fitted with Fralin PAFs, but I donĀ“t use split-coil sounds.

    If you like hotter pickups the Dunvan 59/JB combo is always a good solution. Robben Ford used these pickups for a for long time and his split coil sounds were great..

    Have fun with you new guitar.
     
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    I'de love to own one.. :)
     
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    I always thought they were REALLY nice looking guitars, but they seem to be pretty rare. I've only seen a couple and one of them was an absolute knockout. I'd forgotten about that model...
     
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    I have a Fender Esprit Std from the '80s, which is from the same period/plant I believe - came with Burstbuckers (schaellers were gone) that I have swapped for duncan 59's. Really nice, underated guitar. I could never get the coil tap to sound right, but I have strats and teles to take care of that.
     
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    Jimmy Wallace had one back a couple of months ago. I saw it after I bought a Strat and Espirit RI. I didnt know (then) if i'd like the body style/PU config etc... While the Espirit is nice as a backup, I'll gladly trade up to the real thing (once I find another).
     
  8. teestone

    teestone Mostly Regular Member Silver Supporting Member

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    They are pretty rare. They pop up now and again on Ebay. The problem I always had was that they're always WAY overpriced. I managed to happen upon an auction with "No Reserve" and an openning bid of $1.00 from an "ify" seller. Feedback was intact but it was a pawn shop. I think that fact scared away many buyers. Like I said, it needs some TLC but it's still very playable.
     
  9. teestone

    teestone Mostly Regular Member Silver Supporting Member

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    This is the only reason I'm scared to replace the Schallers. They're not bad, just not great either. What they do well is split/tap...whichever it is. The trick is going to be finding pickups that will be hot enough...yet maintain some balls when they're split/tapped. I was thinking Unbuckers but I'm not sure if they're hot enough. Does anyone know the strength of the Schallers? That might help.
     
  10. Dave Orban

    Dave Orban Gold Supporting Member

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    I had one a few years back, and I thought it was a really fine guitar. Nice neck, nice overall build, etc.

    Mine had the black plastic Schaller humbuckers, which were a bit too hot for my tastes, but it made for a GREAT slide guitar.
     
  11. tiptone

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    I had a set of Rio Grandes in a Strat, Tallboy in the neck, Muy Grande in the bridge. While they weren't my favorite pickups in humbucking mode, they were plenty hot and the coil-tap tones were the best I've ever heard from a pickup that wasn't a single coil.
     
  12. texasflood_dk

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    I bought a standard Esprit from '84 at eBay 6 month ago.
    I didn't really liked the Schaller pick-ups either so I changed them to Seymour Duncans (a JB at bridge, and a '59 in the neck position which is as I recall it what the RF model has..)

    Now I can get a really nice sound with those SD pups on the Esprit.

    Two things I really like about the Fender Esprit :
    It has a great neck and a great distinct sound made from those tonechambers.

    Haven't tried the Squier Esprit though - like to try one out someday for comparison.

    Above all it's a guitar I would recommend.
     
  13. 6stringgrind

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    Isn't this the guitar that Ty Tabor of King's X used on the first few albums? If so, I think that's why they're overpriced much of the time.
     

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