Getting a good bass track for me was more about getting all of the other tracks EQ'd correctly. It's easy to get low and low/mid buildup that clouds the bass and it's also important to get the bass and drums working together.
Passive Fender style basses tend to sound anemic/weak thru a typical cheap DI.seems like I can never get bass to sound right.. and compression is a mystery when I use it.. any tips? thanks
I agree on the transformer DI thing. I'm open to having my mind changed, but I haven't yet heard a DI built into an interface that sounded great. I could certainly use it, but a good DI box with a Jensen or similar is cheap enough it's worth having at least one for this purpose.As far as the recording aspect of it, I think a good DI with a transformer in it is important. I just bought the RNDI which people seem to love for bass. I plan to split the signal and also mic a Hartke amp into a Peavy 4x10 with an SM7. It's not a great rig but hopefully the blend of the two will work. I've used the IK Amplitube SVX modellers on a direct signal only and was never quite happy with it, probably user error though. And more recently I've been using just the mic'd amp which is better but I think the DI will help, maybe saturate it and blend in a little of it for some definition or something.
I had trouble with bass for awhile, and then it suddenly seemed like it got easy. what changed? I started playing bass evenly, writing good parts, got a good bass, got an ampeg V4 and a 2x15 cab, good mics, built a bo hansen DI, got tube mic preamps with DI inputs, blah blah. I think the biggest thing is playing with an even, controlled sound. The thing is, there isn't one good sound. You can get a million different bass sounds that work great in a mix, except for the playing the part well and having a good part to begin with - that is the real key to a great bass sound.seems like I can never get bass to sound right.. and compression is a mystery when I use it.. any tips? thanks
Yeah thanks, I try to zoom in and line up the waveforms by eye, but there's probably a more precise way to do it. I'm almost always close micing so it's usually a very small adjustment. I've noticed that even a slight out of phase can have a big impact on the bass.I agree on the transformer DI thing. I'm open to having my mind changed, but I haven't yet heard a DI built into an interface that sounded great. I could certainly use it, but a good DI box with a Jensen or similar is cheap enough it's worth having at least one for this purpose.
You may know this already, but one thing to be aware of is that your DI signal will hit the DAW a handful samples ahead of the miked signal, depending on your mic placement. So you'll want to use a time adjuster on your DI track in the DAW so that it's in phase with any miked tracks. Interestingly, when I split between DI and a Sansamp, they aren't in phase either... the Sansamp is about 17 samples behind. It's always worth checking when you've multiple tracks for a source.
Thanks for reminding me, I have an original SansAmp Classic I should try. Maybe take a clean DI track and a SA track with some dirt, and then reamp out to the head/cab if needed. This sounds pretty good on its own thoughA Sansamp BDDI is all you need. I run my guitars through this too, and they sound great direct! I don't use the parallel out, but you can use that to get separate wet / dry tracks. I barely use any EQ or compression after recording bass tracks. Just make sure to go easy on the bass knob, as it can get real bassy real fast.
A further tangent (a normal? an eigenvector?), I'll toss in my usual rec for Sonarworks Ref 4 to remove the transducers and (at least part of) the room from the equation.a tangent- how are you monitoring/listening to your tracks? Could be your speakers/room as well. I have Equator D5s that are a little light in the bass end, so I check that with headphones (AT MH50 series). Sometimes the sound is drastically different between the two.