I currently own the shiva and for the most part I love this amp, but theirs always the next best thing around the corner. The Shiva is still probably the best amp I've tried for the tone I'm looking for, but I've heard some good things about the Sabre. Maybe some of you guys have tried both and can shed a little light on this. Shiva/ Pros: 1. Best volume taper I've tried. Capable of great tones at very low volumes. 2. Tone is dark. Not into very bright tones that have no bottom. 3. Tone is very thick. Similar to a JCM 800 2204 w/ a eq in the loop. 4. Sounds great w/ pedals. ( I use OD pedals to boost the 2nd channel, thats my preference over using distortion pedals on the clean channel.) 5. Great low end. Shiva/ Cons: 1. Love the sound at low volumes, but at band practice I struggle to get the "tone". 2. Not enough gain. Pedals help, but I could always use more gain and sustain. I generally play lots of 80's metal. So I need an amp w/ great touch sensativity w/ all the things I like about the shiva and more gain on tap. Will the Sabre do this? feel free to discuss other amps that might be good alternatives.