Anyone for redwood? Thorn Porn

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  1. oscar100

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    Sweet...a koa neck and fretboard?
    Redwood as a tonewood...dang.
    That guitar is off the hook.
    Nice work!
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    1 piece quilted body???? just up my alley, wow! :AOK [​IMG]
     
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    A winner for the lucky owner for sure. I love Redwood.

    Great one, Ron!
     
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    Shreve Katzenjammer Kid Gold Supporting Member

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    DIG DAT!! :AOK :dude
     
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    absolutely beautiful
     
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    Here are a couple of shots of a 45 yr. old AD flamed Redwood top on a Saturn Deluxe being readied for NAMM. The back is Kauri from New Zealand which has been RC dated at over 50,000 yrs. old! What redwood looks like with no color on it.

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    We've used Redwood for a couple tops and and I've been very happy with the sound. Tonally they were quite close to spruce: a little less sustain than usual but very warm and organic with lots of acoustic snap. In our guitars, they really make a great jazz box. Scott Lerner owns one of them, so maybe he can add his comments.
     
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    I've got a Semi hollow redwood top on Mahogany Chapin. I love it. The redwood is not as .. focused as spruce. If I recall correctly (I may not) Bill thinks it is a little closer to cedar than spruce. In comparison to PRS hollowbodies, my guitar definitely warmer than a maple top HB, but still has more snap and openness than spruce.
     
  12. Jim Soloway

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    I will definitely defer to Bill on this one. He has more experience than we do with both redwood and spruce (and we've never used cedar). The one thing I know for sure about Redwood is that I was so pleased with it that I'm planning to use a bunch more.
     
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    That's an incredible Thorn. My congrats to Jo, Ron, and company, for dreaming this one up. Lovely execution as always!


    Kev
     
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    Redwood has to be my all-time-favorite figured wood. Ever since I picked up a figured redwood topped PRS back in the early 90's I've been hooked. I played it next to a figured cedar topped PRS which was identical other than the top wood and of course several maple topped guitars. Both the redwood & cedar guitars were similar sounding & absolutely stunning. I'm still kicking myself for not picking them up back then as they were relatively "cheap" as this was before the big PRS boom.

    Fantastic looking Thorn though and Jack your creation is absolutely stunning! I hope more builders get into using figured redwood and cedar as I think the natural beauty of them is unmatched.
     
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    Jo, That Thorn is really sweet looking! Play it proud:JAM


    Jack, the Redwood is an amazing looking guitar as well. Can you tell us which dealer it is going to?
     
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    One word to sum up that guitar: WOW!
     
  17. Crazyquilt

    Crazyquilt Guitar Dad Silver Supporting Member

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    Not my style, but a gorgeous piece of wood.

    My experience with those tonewoods (redwood, spruce, cedar) is primarily from Native American style flutes, but I'm going to hazard a guess that acoustics are acoustics. I'm also going to assume that by cedar, we mean Western red cedar, not Eastern or aromatic cedar.

    All three woods are resonant rather than reflective, so they tend to be warm. Spruce is the brightest, then cedar, finally redwood. They do, however, have a very similar character, just with different emphasis. I had a redwood flute that was one of my core collection for years. It had a smokey, almost raspy tone -- kind of an organ-like quality. But it was not as clear as I wanted (that's a matter of style & taste more than any lack in the flute or wood) so I replaced with recently with a Macassar ebony flute. Pretty much night & day difference.

    In the higher registers, all of those woods can get a great reedy quality, although I think that redwood, especially, is better suited to the lower registers.

    How much this translates to electric guitar usage I can't say, but I'd be willing to bet that redwood is a fine, warm sounding topwood that may not be as focussed as spruce.
     
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    Man I look at that guitar and it just appeals to me! It has to be the most gorgeous guitar I've seen.
     
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    Here's a clip I did with one of our redwood tops. Perhaps help answer the question.

    http://www.jimsoloway.com/TascamDemos/E083-1.mp3
     
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    beautiful guitars - both the Thorn and the Briggs...
    In acoustic guitars, redwood is closer to cedar than any of the spruces. Gearge Lowden uses it a lot as a top wood and loves it. He says that he gets the best qualities of both cedar and spruce from it.
     

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