Anyone have comments on the Fender Champion 600?

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  1. bbutler123

    bbutler123 Member

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    I'm thinking about buying one to keep at work. I'll only play it clean and use a pedal, but I'm concerned mostly about a speaker as small as 6".

    Anyone know if it will take an 8" without major surgery?

    By the way, will a Vox Pathfinder take a 10" without major surgery?

    Thanks,

    Brian
     
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    Path finder sounds great with the 8 in it. A 10 is too big for the cab IMHO. The 600? Get the 6 inch Weber in there,(big improvement) and get some NOS tubes and you can get happy.
     
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    Thanks, man. I know the Pathfinder sounds great, but anything smaller than a 10" kinda bugs me? :)

    I'm concerned with fullnes (aka bass). I'll look at the Weber, but I'm afraid that a 6" just can't do well enough on the bass. Of course Bose does ok. :)
     
  4. ur2funky

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    It's been a long time since I had a 600, but I remember not liking it. If you get a chance, compare it to the new Mustang amps. They're SS, but have a decent clean, and using the FUSE software you can dial in most any reverb, some effects and they have a molten metal tone too. Sounds larger than the (small) 8" speaker would suggest. I don't remember that being the case with the 600. Try 'em at least.
     
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    Seriously, buy or have built and extension speaker. You could probably use it for both if they are 8 ohm. That would give the ultimate tone of the 10 inch speaker you choose. All you would need is a short speaker cord to plug either amp into it. I have the Pathfinder without reverb. Has a blue dog it it. Freaks me out how good it sounds.
     
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    I've had both and I also popped a Ragin Cajun in the Pathfinder (it fit but it was tight).

    I much prefer the Pathfinder completely stock. I know that doesn't help your issue with the small speaker but it just seems that amp wants that speaker.
     
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    Well, thanks. I have a couple SS amps- a Pathfinder and a Fender Frontman 10", but I have nice tube amps at home, and after playing the SS amps for a while, I realize I deserve to have a tube amp at work too, not just SS. I've heard the Champion 600 and I loved the tone, except for the smallness of the sound. I could live with that, but...... I have a couple 12" extensions, but that's kind of big/hassle for work. Thanks for your output. I BET the Mustangs sound fabulous, but I really need a tube amp if I'm going to play it very much at all. (my SS amps are great for short playing times though. Both of them actually) :) The clean tone on a Fender Frontman is as impressive as the fabulous tone of a Vox Pathfinder.
     
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    Honestly, I can believe that. I've wondered about that very thing.
     
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    Yes that speaker IS freaky. I love it. The brown - colored Bulldog is good too, in the newer Pathfinders, I guess.
     
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    Love my champ 600 stock. Play it for solo gigs all the time. Beautiful and warm. I tried a jj for the 6v6 once, and didn't like it at all. Stuck the stock tube back in. I always try to recommend it, but people on tgp don't seem to like it much. I'll never understand. But I hate devilles, blues jrs, and drri 65's and some people swear by those, and will never understand my dislike. So go try it. I think it's the most perfect apartment amp there is.
     
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    This could be a budget breaker, but if you get a chance, try one of the Fender EC VibroChamps. They are pricey new, but you can find 'em used on eBay and guitarcenter.com for $600-ish, and they are both small in size and great sounding: 8" speaker, 1w/5w switch, plus hi and low inputs, so on low power/low input, the volume is fairly tamped down, and of course on hi/hi it's got a lot of bark for its size. Nice, deep bias-based trem, too. Takes pedals OK with the stock Weber smooth cone alnico speaker, but if you want more headroom you will also probably want to change speakers.

    I didn't need another small Champ-type amp, but I bought a used EC VC at a good price, and I have no regrets about that. They are killer little amps. :D
     
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    Yamaha THR10 ($300 new) or THR5 ($200 new).
     
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    As good as the Yamaha THR series is... ain't tube.
     
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    I prefer the 600 for clean sounds and the Weber (ribbed) speaker seemed way too dark for me, great for higher gain stuff though.

    I ended up putting in a Jensen 6" which sounded very much like the stock speaker but with a bit more brightness and punch, also some NOS tubes from Watford Valves. Now it sounds very classy and authentic to my ears, one day I might try and cram an 8" speaker in there...
     
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    Replacing the speaker cloth made more of a difference than changing out the speaker to the Jensen.

    And yeah, the amp sounds pretty cool through a cab.
     
  16. WDeranged

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    Oh yeah, ditch that velour crap if you're handy with a staple gun.

    Get some proper cloth on there and you instantly gain clarity, the stock cloth also vibrates noisily.
     

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