Anyone know what kind of amps Duane Allman favored?

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  1. TwoGeez

    TwoGeez Member

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    Anyone know what kind of amps Duane Allman favored? I've looked all over the internet and can't find any info on this. They talk about the guitars he played, but not his amps.
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    50w small box Marshall's... If i remember right....
     
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    Not sure of the exact model bet he was into 50 watt Marshall
    Bass Heads & 4x12 bottoms.:AOK
     
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    With JBL or I've also heard Cerwin Vega speakers. I'm not sure about the CV's, but it's possible.
     
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    IIRC, he played a 50 Watt Super Bass on Live at Filmore East. God what a tone.
     
  6. Tom CT

    Tom CT Old Supporting Member Gold Supporting Member

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    The common belief is that, yes, he used 50-watt Marshall bass heads (model 1986). However, in many of the pictures I've seen, one of the two heads in his stack is a tremolo model. See below - Tom

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    Shouldn't that be 1987? I could be wrong, just ask my wife. However,... ?
     
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    I've also heard he used a Fender of some sort early on.
     
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    No, the bass model is 1986, consult Doyle Marshall's book for this.

    The JBL thing is from Dicky Betts who did use, and still uses JBL's.

    Don Butler was the one who talked about Cerwin Vegas, as he did some ampwork for the Allman's back in the day apparently.

    Duane also has been rumored to use the bass model Greenbacks of the day as well.

    In the studio, however, Duane was said to use Silverface Fenders, most notably a Twin, that did have JBL's. He also used a fuzz with the twin, but apparently not with the Marshall. Listen to the first Allman's album, that's a Silverface twin, and I've heard a rumor that the guitar that Duane is using for SOME of that is a 345 that he had from the Allman Joys days. I believe at this time though Duane had the Goldtop Les Paul as well. Some time during the first album was apparently when Duane picked up the Marshall.

    The live stuff with the Allmans though is almost always the following:

    Duane:
    Les Paul (Goldtop, Cherry burst or Hot Lanta) SG (in later years)
    1986 model Marshall head
    couple of 4x12 Marshall cabs
    coricidin bottle

    Dickey:
    Goldtop Les Paul or SG
    1959 model Marshall (supposedly modded for extra treble)
    couple of 4x12 Marshall cabs with JBL's
     
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    I was just listening to the live version of Dreams ...........god both him and Dickey just Killed on that tune. Maybe the best tone ever..........:BEER
     
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    I thought I should add that Dickey's Marshalls also appear to be 50-watt models (small box) in this picture. I think 100-watt heads would cover a bit more of the Leslie 122 they're sitting on. This is a later picture, as Duane is playing Hot 'Lanta, acquired in September '71, well after the Fillmore gigs (March and June). Lots of speculation, but I'm always fascinated! Tom
     
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    I've seen a couple of pictures of Duane with a Silverface. It's also speculated that he favored the pups in his Goldtop, and had them put into his '59 Burst LP not long after he acquired it. However, I think this would have been after the Layla sessions (he's speculated to have used his Goldtop predominately throughout the Layla sessions)??? Meaning they would have been in the '59 for the Fillmore shows.
     
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    I believe I remember reading about Duane using alnico Altec Lansing 417A's in his Marshall bottoms?? Anyone on this???
     
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    I think I heard Butler mention this as well, but can't confirm for sure.
     
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    Funny thing about that.
    Like the light,
    the shine brighter
    just before burnout.

    Same with speakers.
    From a number of musicians I work with
    they all say the same thing....

    ...it was the best i've ever sounded...
    then poof, they quit working, just like that.

    ...I've witnessed it too.

    Then again, I've heard them too when
    they don't poof, fry, pop, burn up and
    well, you remember those nights too.
    Just not like the stand out nights when
    the speaker gave out.

    If they aren't fryin'
    you aren't tryin'

    rawk on dude. :dude:dude:dude:dude:dude
     
  18. Rod

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    When I saw the Allman Bros in the Fall of 1970, It was an outdoor gig at a race track in CO near Denver...Both Dick and Duane were using small box 50 heads...I know, cause I was using the same amp at the time..Duane's was the bass model, and he was using Altec 417's...in 2/ 4/12 cabs...1 open back, (the back was off), the other closed back..Dickey had the same set up w/ JBL's..By this time Dickey had given Duane his Les Paul SG, so Duane could play slide with it...Earlier on, Duane only had his Darkburst LP, and he's retune it on stage for slide work, then retune it again for regular guitar playing..By this time, Dick was playing Goldy all the time..
     
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    Thanks for posting. It's always interesting to hear from someone who actually saw him. I had only heard of him using JBL's and possibly Cerwin Vegas. Obviously he experimented with a number of speakers. I had also never heard that one cabinet was open and the other closed. I saw them after Duane's death. Dicky was using 2 100 watters and 4 cabs. All with JBL's.
    By the way I have always heard that Duane just plugged straight in to the amps. Since his sound was more distorted than Dicky's I"ve often wondered if he used any kind of a booster, etc. I've also heard stories that his pickups were rewound hotter, or that his amps were modded. I have no way of knowing if any of this is true, but did you see any pedals on stage or did he indeed just plug straight in?
     
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    I always thought Duane used 50 watters cranked, and that gave him a more saturated tone, and Dicky used 100 watters that gave him a cleaner sound still with substantial sustain. I also thought/read/heard that they both used Marshall cabs loaded with JBL's with the backs off. I think it's also fairly well known that for a lot of session/side-man work Duane used a Fender Twin with a Fuzz Face for that cranked saturated amp tone.
    FWIW,
    Rick
     

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