Anyone know where to find a nice BF Super Reverb

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  1. mbeards

    mbeards Member

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    Im looking to get a second Blackface Super Reverb. I cant seem to find any good ones.

    Many seem to be asking way too much for these amps seeing how many are around and that alot of them are pretty beat up. Im looking for one that is all original including speakers and in good shape. Guitar center vintage has some but many of them have problems and or/ lots of parts swapped and are asking 2000+

    mattbeardsworth@yahoo.com

    Thanks guys
     
  2. smolder

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    did you look in the emporium? I'm in a large market granted, but see them on cl frequently. They tend to be expensive to ship.
     
  3. woof*

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    Look in pawn shops and eBay. Find a beater, send to Ron Viel at uncle spot.
    I've bought two that way, in the 6-800$ range. Had the amps redone by Ron.
    One needed a new baffle, both needed speakers. The end result is having a 100% solid and dependable Super Reverb for alot less money than these guys are asking.
     
  4. zenas

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    I look in the emporium from time to time and just get pissed ! A Blackface amp with all new caps on the board is not worth two grand ! When someone changes things like trannys and the blue tone caps the amp is no longer a collectable amp and the price should drop alot !
    Don't get me wrong the amp may be the best sounding BF whatever but it ain't worth as much as an unchanged amp.
     
  5. woof*

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    Yep
    And a 70's 11lb tele isn't either. Just because 58' Les Paul's and 57' Strats are incredible, doesn't mean there is some kinda weird sliding scale that elevates practice amps and boat anchor guitars to "collector grade" :)
    It's really a shame too because it keeps great guitars and amps out of players hands that could be out there really using them.
    Really, the best answer for the OP is to get a beater in shape for half the money.
     
  6. mbeards

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    yeah, I see these part swapped supers for 2K often.
     
  7. zenas

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    I do my own amp work so I like to buy the amps that nobodys "fixed" if I can. I'm by no means the worlds greatest tech but dam some people shouldn't own soldering irons or even screw drivers.
    When you see a Blackface amp with alot of the blue caps replaced you can bet a dipstick worked on it cause those caps last about forever. There are also people who will swap good parts on a custmers amp and then sell the parts.
    The way the market is now for a BFSR to be worth two grand it would have to be a dam fine almost NOS amp. IMO anyway.
     
  8. gmann

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    www.gbase.com. They have 68 listed. A variety of prices, most expensive but some seem fairly priced.
     
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    Having EVERYTHING original is going to be tough. Do you even want new filter caps and 3 prong? You can find something with those replaced pretty consistently in the upper 1k region.
     
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    Where do you live.?
     
  11. sideman

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    There has been a bunch of them on the bay lately - some for reasonable money. Agreed about the Mallory blue caps.
     
  12. Billion81

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    OK- I'll bite. I have one of the pricier BFSRs in the Emporium. Mine's a '64. If you read the copy and check the pics- Mine is good for both the collector and player but Likely not an amp I would be dragging all over the road.

    re: Original Parts- Some parts do simply wear out or go bad. It's a 47 year old amp. However- for the collector type- I have ALL of the original parts. I'll hold that up to the scrutiny of any gut shot snob around.

    I'm the second owner of this amazing amp. It is likely a tad on the outside of the price scale for this market.

    I shot a PM to the OP- No reply....
    Clearly he wants a good amp but for less money- It's a buyers market for sure..

    If it's for gigs and road use. Damn right I'd buy a drip edge or silverface and mod- or a more thrashed BF and fix it up for much less money.

    Amps are like humans- If they have a thrashed appearance with scars and teeth missing- something tells me their internals are pretty jacked up too.
     
  13. zenas

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    I'm getting real picky on what I buy. I don't mind spending money but it has to be a worth it. A cap job 3 prong cord is fine if done right. And for the right price I'd buy an amp with a lot of changed parts maybe.
    I don't resell amps but I still want to break even if I do.
    Like I've said before an amp with alot of changed parts may sound great but it's not a big money piece anymore.
     
  14. smolder

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    Asking price has little to do with worth in this market. It has to do with what the buyer is willing to take. In some case they don't need to sell it that badly. In other cases they have way to much invested.

    On the other end of the market is the desperation sale. A $250 silverface bassman on craigslist for instance. If your lucky... grandma might be clearing out sonny's room and it might be close to original, but that is a long shot. Lot's of the amps being dumped on Cl are abused or have been cannibalized. Finding either the high end or the dogs will be pretty easy. Finding a good deal on a great amp that can be a workhorse is just going to take some legwork. Plan on looking and listening to a dozen to find the right one... and get busy now. It's really is a great time to be in the market.
     
  15. guitarcapo

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    I have a reissue Super Reverb that I had gutted and rebuilt with PTP wiring by Vintage Sound amps.

    I hardly ever play it. I'd sell it for an even grand. PM me if interested.
     
  16. mbeards

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    I dont mind parts swapped.

    Filter caps, if they are original, are a must! Although i would rather do it myself. My first super was 100% original until a I performed an electrolytic cap change and 3 prong cord. Only what is necessary. Everything else i left. Collector or not, dried out caps can lead to a catastrophic failure. Also, collectors want it to look new but, with old caps, it wont sound even close to how it did the day it left the factory.

    Im picky because there are so many available. Parts swapped haphazardly and not done very neatly wont fetch you 2k just because it is vintage. There are too many other there to pay 2k for one with lots of swapped parts. Also people expect to get more for earlier amps. To me they are all the same to me. Ill take a nice 1966 over a more expensive 1964 any day.

    Bottom line, if you have a very nice Super Reverb with original speakers, i have a very reasonable budget for one, let me know.
     
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    I know where there are two '64s one serial number apart, in perfect condition. All original, caps to trannies to 2 prong plug (which is the second thing I'd have fixed after the electrolytic and filter caps).

    Problem is the guy is out of his mind on price and won't split them up. He's a friend of Ms Vee's and thinks they'll be worth a fortune some day. I told him that ship sailed in 2007, but he won't listen to me. Last time I saw him, he went "down" to $5000 for both. I told him to get in contact with Derek Trucks agent...

    BTW: I have a '66 I bought for $1500 about 5 years ago...
     
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  18. mbeards

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    Thats neat! Someone may want those for that price... (Derek Trucks). I have tried many, many amps. For me once i found the Super, my searching was over.
     

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