Anyone know which delays/echos have sound after turn-off?

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  1. StompBoxBlues

    StompBoxBlues Member

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    Just wondering if I could get a list, or build one here, of delay and/or echo pedals that have the delay keep going even when the pedal is turned off?

    Would also be good to know which of those than can do it, have it as a swithcable parameter or which it's just the way it works.

    Pedals that allow delay to continue even after switch off (switchable?):



    Pedals I know that don't do that:

    Visual Sound H2O
    Ibanez DE-7
     
  2. JohnLutz

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    DD-20 keeps the delay going after you turn it off.

    Replica does not.
     
  3. Chuck Snider

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    I remember my old Line 6 delay would "tail" off but you would have to choose to not have true bypass in order for it to function that way....
     
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    Yeah, you could do that with the old Korg SDD 2000. Fun stuff
     
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    The Boss DD-6 trails. I don't think you can turn the feature off. That's just how it is. I like it that way.
     
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    Both of the Echoplex's that I had did this to a limited extent. Plus they always added a really cool tone to the whole signal chain.
     
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    the simple answer is just about any pedal that isn't true bypass will trail, true bypass pedals cut out.
     
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    boss rv-3 trails off. its a good feature to have...
     
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    You guys are great. Where else could you ask this and within a day have a auto-compiled list :)

    SO, so far:

    Pedals that have delay tails after turning off:
    DD-20
    DD-6 (not optional)
    RV-3
    Line 6 ?? (optional)
    Echo Park
    Korg SDD 2000
    echoplexes
    Digidelay

    Pedals that cut-off delay tails when turned off:
    Replica
    H2O
    DE-7



    Exodus, just with the ones I have, that isn't true (the first part of your statement).... What I mean is, if it isn't TB doesn't indicate it will trail. What you wrote at the end is though...all TB pedals do NOT "trail", but just because a pedal is not TB, doesn't mean it will.
     
  12. stinkfoot

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    Indeed - I see that comment a lot ("if you mod a delay for TB, you'll lose the delay trails"). While it is technically true - a true bypass will not let any delay signal past it in bypass mode - it implies that all non-TB delay pedals will let the delay trail off. That is very far from the truth, as the fact is that 90% of the delay pedals out there (including those no longer in production) will kill the delay signal as soon as you turn them off.

    It'd be far easier to compile a list of which delay pedals that have this feature, than those that don't. For the short list, I'd add the Marshall Echohead (optional). I also started on a list (see below) of those that don't trail off, but came to my senses after a while, when I realized that there were an almost infinite number of pedals to list. So I basically gave up.

    I'm fairly sure on most of these, although if you have one of them and it does trail off, feel free to correct me. :D

    Guyatone MD-3, AD-X/TD-X
    Maxon AD-80, AD-900/999, AD-9
    Ibanez AD-80, AD-9, AD-99, ADL, DDL, DDL-10, DDL-20, DML, DML-10, DML-20, DPL-10, DL-10, CD-10, EM5, DL5, DE-7
    Boss DM-2, DM-3, DD-2/3/5, DSD-2/3
    DOD 585, 680, DFX9, FX90, FX96
    Electro-Harmonix Memory Man, Deluxe Memory Man (?)
     
  13. StompBoxBlues

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    Good point Stinkfoot (that is the FIRST time I ever wrote THAT sentence)!

    I'll take your good advice and forget about pedals that cut off the tails when turned off. My experience is the same as yours, most don't (or didn't).

    Personally, if it can, I'd like to see it be selectable.
     
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    I have my DD-20 in a TB loooper. Thereby, in a sense, for me it is selectable :D
     
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    Yeah, this is one of those threads that makes me feel like an old geezer, cause all the delays I used to own cut the trails when bypassed. A cheap old geezer, too, as I've never had a real tape driven echo or any fancy rack stuff.

    It's like those "I have to have tap-tempo" threads..

    Like, how long has tap tempo been around? Again, maybe it's because I could never afford things like TC Electronic 2290s, but the very first tap-tempo pedal I've owned is 6 months old.
     
  16. drfrankencopter

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    I'm a delay junkie....and it's getting worse (looking now at a maxon analog delay and Replica for digital).

    I have a Line6 DL-4...it can do echo/delay after the bypass is toggled. But, you have to configure it to do that with some obscure combination of button presses (and it does prevent the unit from being 'true bypass').

    I'd be surprised if the Korg SDD-2000 trails echoes after being bypassed. My Korg SDD-3000 doesn't do this.

    Trailing echoes are selectable in the TC2290 (via the 'special key'). Tap tempo was also on this unit...though it was called 'learn'. I've got one of these too....don't use it that much, maybe I'll get back into it some day.

    My PCM-41 doesn't trail after bypass either....I don't see many guitarists using this delay, but it sounds awesome; better than the Kord SDD IMO, and much warmer than the TC2290.

    Cheers,

    Kris
     
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    Yeah, I sold that delay 10 yrs ago but I remember it had a different jack then the bypass & you could use the foot switch on that & the delay would trail off. It was awesome when you would run it + 1 secs...
     
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    Does an MXR Carbon Copy do this?
    (Continue to delay for a few repeats after turned off)


    Thanks!
     
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    tech 21 DLA has a "trails" feature that is switchable.
     
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    TC Nova Repeater trails off too.
     

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