Anyone make a lower wattage JTM45

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  1. PedalFreak

    PedalFreak Supporting Member

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    I had a Bluesbreaker JTM45 for awhile & loved the sound. But it was just too loud in most applications.

    Does anyone make a JTM45 style amp in a smaller package? 25watts tops.
     
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    I would be interested in this as well.


    Mark
     
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    RussB low rent hobbyist Silver Supporting Member

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    PedalFreak Supporting Member

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    1974x is a different circuit. Different sound also.

    I'm talking 6v6 or 6L6 based maybe 20 or 22watt Class AB 4 input amp. A JTM45 with half the wattage.
     
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    PedalFreak Supporting Member

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    Looks like i may be on to something. Figure this out and start building them...I can see the year long waits now! :rotflmao
     
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    A Fargen Miniplex with a tube rectifier and KT-66 tubes would cover it pretty well.
     
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    Ed Reed Senior Member

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    Power scaling perhaps?
     
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    +1 on the mini plex. The mini II is out now. Didn't Germino make the mosonette that is supposed to be a smaller JTM? I've hard clips of the blockhead firstborn that we very Beano to me.
     
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    Frankee Wartime Consigliere

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    2061x has plexi tone. Nice little amp. 20 watts.
     
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    Germino 45 can use 6v6s and different recto tube. The Reinhardt jkc 33, would also be similar,and you can use the Voltage regulation to dial in a lower wattage. I'm sure there are many others,as has been mentioned.
     
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    RCCola (|@ / \ @ |.) Gold Supporting Member

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    Miniplex and Germino are good suggestions.

    Fender 5E3 Tweed Deluxe clone?
     
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    +1 on the Germino Classic 45. The Classic 45 is really only about a 30-35 watt amp. Pair that up with some inefficient speakers like the Celestion Heritage G12M Greenbacks and you're set. Authentic JTM 45 tone at managable volumes. If you need more volume control get an attenuator.
     
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    mike@switchback Supporting Member

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    30 watts is what a real JTM45 puts out, so I don't see how the Classic 45 would be any more manageable? :confused:
     
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    Frankee Wartime Consigliere

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    Yup. JTM45 is only a model number...no reference to wattage.
     
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    RCCola (|@ / \ @ |.) Gold Supporting Member

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    The C45 with tubes replaced to 6V6 will be lower wattage.

    But, back to the OP's desires: really, a 20 watter won't be any less loud than a 30 watter. I think the real issue is a JTM45 needs to be cranked to get the distortion working. Other circuits/amps distort more quickly (tweed Deluxe).
     
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    Two words as one: Soultone. Beautifully built amps with Power Scaling. Check it out:

    http://www.soultoneamps.com/

    Click on Enter>Products>Amps>Pro Series>JTM 45ps

    You can run different tubes, switch from JTM to Plexi, has a effects loop that can be totally swtiched out. I would love to try one of those amps someday.
     
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    Resurrection!

    I would love to see some more modern replies to this thread.

    I too love the 45 tone, but, with a mando and dobro in the band...
     
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    5Y3 and 6v6 with a low voltage power transformer and inefficient speakers.

    Scaling or maybe a Master. I put a PPIMV in mine, works great.
     
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    I use a 1974 w/ 2x12 cab on 3 or so driven by a BOR when I need to get JTM tones at club/bar volume.
     

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