Anyone seen the Gil Yaron Bone '59 yet?

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  1. DM426

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    If you're already familiar with the Yaron Bone I, this is a bit different. It doesn't have the light wood core, it's solid like a LP. In fact, it's very much like a 59 LP but it looks different.

    Would love to hear one of these. I was just wondering if anyone has ordered one yet? I bet Pete T. gets one...

    These are the only pics I've seen so far. Perhaps Gil will post some more in this thread. The one pictured here is gorgeous!

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    And for the sake of comparison, here is the original Bone I.

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    Great looking guitars except for the dot inlays. They kind of ruin it for me. Anyone know why he opted for them?
     
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    Because they look better. ;)
     
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    Yeah it's blocks all the way for me too...

    I would rather have it blank than dots on an LP style
     
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    I have not talked to Gil regarding the inlays, but I believe I remember reading somewhere that he prefers the dots as they ensure there is more actual wood on the fretboard. Not sure how much of an effect they have on tone, if any. Gil would be the man to answer that.

    However, I asked Cliff (from DAG) about it a while back and he speculated Gil might be open to building a Bone 59 with larger, more traditional inlays if someone asked for them. But again, I haven't put the question to Gil so I don't know his position on that.

    I think it looks wonderful as is. But I photoshopped on some traditional burst inlays just to see what it would look like, and IMHO it did give this same guitar even more of a vintage feel with the larger inlays.
     
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    Would love to fondle one of those. That and the Bartlett retrospec.

    So many great builders but those are two I think about often if money was disposable.
     
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    From what I've been told, the Bartlett Retrospec and the Yaron Bone 59 are in the same ballpark as far as their overall feel and build quality.

    I'm not greedy, I just want to own one of each.
     
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    He has offered this since day one of the Bone introduction. I just don't think people really want to combine the 2, as they either want a 59 or the Bone , with what Gil considers the improvements over a 59. He definitely does not recommend or push it, but will make it if people truly want one.
     
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    One variation he doesn't offer, but that I think would be interesting, would be the 59 look with the Bone internal construction.
     
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    I thought one of the the drivers of the Yaron sound, even on LP replicas, was the lightwood core. The powlina caputures the resonance of old mahogany angle. So I'm confused...
     
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    One thing is for sure. Gil has some of the most gorgeous maple on this earth.
     
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    Maybe I'm misunderstanding your comment but Gil only uses a Paulownia core for the Bone guitars (other than the Bone '59). His LPs are solid old growth mahogany as are the bodies of the Bone guitars before they are milled for the Paulownia core.
     
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    As far as I know, the original a Bone I is the only design that gets the Paulownia core. The bursts he did as well as the Bone 59 are solid. Now it's possible he made a few that were chambered if someone asked for that, but I hadn't heard of him putting Paulownia into a vintage-style burst.

    At first, I wasn't too sure of the Bone shape as I love the look of the old LPs. But over time I've really come to appreciate it. I won't do it just yet, but I plan to eventually get Gil to do a a bone 59 for me. And if he'll do it, I would like to have larger inlays on it.

    There's not a doubt in my mind that Bone pictured above is an absolutely killer guitar. Would love to hook that up to an old JMP.
     
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    Each build is unique and they come with a long list of options including the classic inlays.
    A typical Bone-I will come with a Paulownia core, wraparound Resomax bridge and AirGap HB's, while the Bone-59 is identical to a late 50's LP std with the same parts and PAF's (but with a stronger HS, better TR, easier access to cutaway and better ergonomics).
    Some players prefer to mix the attributes and use dots on a Bone-59 or an ABR-1/STP on a Bone-I, AirGaps on a Bone-59.. etc.. it's all about what the player needs or wishes to experiment with, and the options are many.

    As for my personal preferences from a player's point of view I prefer the cleanest fingerboard possible without binding and with minimal dot inlays, just like an early '58 dot neck ES-335. The Brazilian RW used on the Bone line is extremely figured, rare and precious so I see no reason inlaying 30% of the surface with the blocks just because they look fancy. I prefer the natural wood to speak out for itself and I agree about having no inlays at all... but that may be a problem for some including myself (-;
    I also consider those instruments as working tools so simplicity and tone will always come first in my book.
    Sure, I can do the Bone with massive multi-layer binding, big fancy board inlays, tree of life abalone on the HS, gold hardware and new growth perfectly book-matched 5A super 3D quilted maple top... but I don't think it will sound any better and TMO not look better as well.

    If history counts, we should also give a second thought trying to understand why the most sought after designs were the simple ones and not the high-end fancy stuff. Tele, Early Strats, Dot neck 335's, LP standard, D-18's, P Bass.. etc.. those simple designs have the biggest footprint with both players and collectors.
    It's mainly about the bond of the instrument with the player AS IT GETS PLAYED that creates the magic.. simplicity is pure.
     
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    For those of you on TGP who don't know, the reply above is from Gil himself. His ID name on the forums is "Preeb". Great explanation, BTW (and I agree).
     
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    Gil has been making these for a while now. Has anyone had an opportunity to play the Bone 59 and compare it to the sound of a Les Paul? Also, has anyone tried a Bone H yet?
     

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