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Anything like an ADA MP1 in pedal form, tubes or not?

sizzlemeister

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As the title asks, I'm wondering if there's anything like an ADA MP1 in pedal format, but that runs off of 9-18v power.

I suspect tubes are probably out of the question, since the MP1 runs its tubes at over 140v.

I know ADA has the ADA APP-1, but it's an expensive unit. Ideally we're talking ~ $150 or under.

The sound and feel are perhaps the main thing.
 

Holzar1988

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I've got a modded ADA MP-1, and I've never found anything, pedal-wise, that quite gets there. It's such a great preamp.

That said, I'm really happy with my Weehbo JVM drive, but I wouldn't describe it as really totally nailing the ADA sound.

The AAP-1, from what I've read about, is based on a Fender tonestack, not the hotrodded Marshally sound MP-1s are famous for. I really like what I've heard in the AAP-1 clips I've listened to, but I don't think David Tarnowski (think that's his name) was really trying to go for an MP-1 sound with the AAP-1. Guitarist magazine reviewed the AAP-1 maybe a year or so again, and in that article, Tarnowski said they were working on an MP-1 reissue. Don't know how much market there would be for a dedicated preamp in our time of multifunction modelers, but man I'd love to see what what they'd do with a reissue.

Don't know if that really helps, but there you go.
 

fdesalvo

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Ha, the MP1 was the first thing I ever bought from a catalog back in the day! I miss that thing.
 
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I have one of these pedals and it gets really close to the ADA kind of sound. Runs on 30v power. Killer pedal. It was around $170.

 

sizzlemeister

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Like I said, feel is important. Presently I have two MP1s, one relatively stock, the other I'm reversing the mods someone did at some point years ago.

I have a small rack rig, but also a pedal board for the times when a pedal board is more convenient. For a long time I have used a Rat for "that" sound in a pedal. However, I recapped and de-noised the stock MP1 and it occurred to me that while the Rat is good, it's not the same experience over all.

I wish I were better at circuits so I could figure out how the MP1 gets that sound and replicate it in a pedal.
 

jazzfromhell

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I agree on the Bogner Red being able to cop some of the MP-1s feel. It sorta has the same "sizzle" to it but the ADA has some harder sounding upper frequencies, not as smooth as the Red. My 2 cents anyway.
 

Holzar1988

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I wish I were better at circuits so I could figure out how the MP1 gets that sound and replicate it in a pedal.
It might be oversimplifying things, but I'm guessing the fact that the MP-1 has two preamp tubes in its circuit contributes to the unit's feel--something that any solid state circuit is probably going to have a fairly tough time copping perfectly.
 

Holzar1988

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This thread inspired me a bit. I hadn't played my MP-1 rack rig--Furman PQ-3, ADA MP-1 3TM, Rocktron Intellifex, Mesa 50/50--in probably at least a year. I use the same extension 2X12 for both my rack rig and for my Bogner Alchemist, and I don't have a neat ABY solution to toggle between them.

But I took 20 minutes today to decouple my pedalboard setup and set up the rack again.

I've been playing with the Weehbo JVM Drive for almost a year now, and I was curious how it would feel to go back to the MP-1 rig.

The answer was kind of surprising. Honestly, the Weehbo was closer than I remembered, and in some ways better, I think. The ADA is a bit tighter in the low end. But it was also smaller sounding, too. I didn't sound quite as big or, dare I say, amplike as the Weehbo did.

It's not a dead heat, I don't think. But I definitely think the Weehbo gets into the ADA neighborhood pretty effectively. Enough that I think when I have another 20 minutes, I'm going to reconnect the pedalboard. I doubt I'll ever sell the MP-1, as it's like a piece of memorabilia from the heyday of the '80s hair metal days. But I'm also not sure that it does much that the Weehbo can't cop pretty effectively. And in some ways, I think the Weehbo beats it.

Wow. Can't believe I'm writing that. But there you go.
 

BadMonkey007

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This thread inspired me a bit. I hadn't played my MP-1 rack rig--Furman PQ-3, ADA MP-1 3TM, Rocktron Intellifex, Mesa 50/50--in probably at least a year. I use the same extension 2X12 for both my rack rig and for my Bogner Alchemist, and I don't have a neat ABY solution to toggle between them.

But I took 20 minutes today to decouple my pedalboard setup and set up the rack again.

I've been playing with the Weehbo JVM Drive for almost a year now, and I was curious how it would feel to go back to the MP-1 rig.

The answer was kind of surprising. Honestly, the Weehbo was closer than I remembered, and in some ways better, I think. The ADA is a bit tighter in the low end. But it was also smaller sounding, too. I didn't sound quite as big or, dare I say, amplike as the Weehbo did.

It's not a dead heat, I don't think. But I definitely think the Weehbo gets into the ADA neighborhood pretty effectively. Enough that I think when I have another 20 minutes, I'm going to reconnect the pedalboard. I doubt I'll ever sell the MP-1, as it's like a piece of memorabilia from the heyday of the '80s hair metal days. But I'm also not sure that it does much that the Weehbo can't cop pretty effectively. And in some ways, I think the Weehbo beats it.

Wow. Can't believe I'm writing that. But there you go.
Adam do for me A/B with the MP-1 and the JCM Ltd, I'm interested to hear the results :dude
 

Holzar1988

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Adam do for me A/B with the MP-1 and the JCM Ltd, I'm interested to hear the results :dude
I've got the ADA rig packed away in storage right now, as I'm just not using it. And I'm not really set up to record clips. I'd love to some day, but probably no time soon. I would say that the JVM is closer to the ADA than the JCM Ltd.
 






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