Are you a pedal pessimist or optimist??

Pedal pessimist or optimist?

  • They all suck...

    Votes: 9 10.2%
  • So many amazing sounds, how do I choose?!

    Votes: 79 89.8%

  • Total voters
    88

josiahmac

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I’m so sick of watching these pedal shows and reviews where they’re speechless over everything they plug in! I was looking over my gear table with thousands of dollars in high end pedals and I can’t find one I like. I’ve bought so many highly regarded pedals and sold them immediately.

I thought, something’s deeply wrong with me. Or is it? Maybe there’s others?
 

tobereleased

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I've never bought a pedal that I couldn't find a way to enjoy, and I've bought some nasty pedals in my time (and some really nice ones too).

Take the Belcat DLY-303 for instance. It's a cheap "analog" delay that's noisy, has limited delay time, and has quirky on/off characteristics - the switch affects whether the output of the delay chip is added in rather than affecting whether the input of the pedal is routed to the delay chip. Even when off it leaks delay signal to other pedals if it shares daisy chained power. The only real workable setting was with the knobs pretty much all the way up...

...and I loved it. Leaning into that one setting was actually pretty magical, even if I had to repair the switch three times (which actually just meant restretching a spring - the external switch just pushed a spring onto a smaller internal switch).
 

lefort_1

Nuzzled Firmly Betwixt
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There are so many cool sounds that have been made that aren't right done the groove of the oush-in-edge-of-breakup.
I do not thrill to many of the sounds that are pedestaled around here.
So.Damn.Boring...to me.

There is a [place for just about any sound, even silence.
 

Madsen

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I’m so sick of watching these pedal shows and reviews where they’re speechless over everything they plug in!
When I'm shopping for a sound I prefer the reviews where no one says anything and I can hear the actual pedal.

Sometimes a brief history lesson on where the sound came from is nice. Just the facts though, no gushing & straight to the playing & moving knobs around.
 

nnnnnn

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I was looking over my gear table with thousands of dollars in high end pedals and I can’t find one I like. I’ve bought so many highly regarded pedals and sold them immediately.

I thought, something’s deeply wrong with me. Or is it?
Nothing wrong with not liking pedals. Might be something wrong with repeatedly investing so much money in them when you don't like them.
 

WillLane

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I’m so sick of watching these pedal shows and reviews where they’re speechless over everything they plug in! I was looking over my gear table with thousands of dollars in high end pedals and I can’t find one I like. I’ve bought so many highly regarded pedals and sold them immediately.

I thought, something’s deeply wrong with me. Or is it? Maybe there’s others?
If that is your problem, I highly doubt its a pedal's fault. Check your amp, check your guitar, check your playing, check your ability to dial stuff in. Start simple, no extreme settings. Add a pedal to add to the sound, not change it entirely. If you're dealing with pedals like the Strymon Trinity you'll need to take some time with them. Brew some coffee and have fun.
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I'm a pessimist in the sense that there are a billion Klones and TS9's and all of their companies want my money because they think their pedal is the best and most revolutionary clone of them all. I am confident I could get 95% of the way any other Klone or TS9 can get with any basic Klone/TS9, so I don't need 5 of each from different companies just for subtle differences. Unless you need like low cut/boosts or things like that, major changes to the circuit like that are somewhat different stories.

I think you can get great tones with a FD2, Soul Food, or regular TS9. You don't have to have the $300-$400 boxes to sound good. But they are nice to have and maybe that 5% is functionality/sound that gives you an edge.
 

Spider Mark

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I seem to go from "Best pedal ever!" to "Why did I waste $$$?" in about a fortnight, then cycle them back in to see if they're keepers.

But not one single pedal? That's a bit odd to me, as my Orange amps have no reverb (or delay or Dimension C or phaser ...) but great dirt tone.
 

Hawkmoon269

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I think it’s important to ask “what does the song ask for?” Then immediately ignore that **** because if I listened to the song I would plug straight into an amp with a little bit of breakup every single time. Sometimes I want to use a whammy pedal, dammit.
 

ry-guy

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There’s been few pedals i thought actually sounded terrible. It was more of not my sound, not my style, not a good fit for my amp or guitar,etc. I’ve heard pedals I’ve had played by other people and it sounds great, i play it, nah, sounds bad. I’ve even had other people tell me my tone was great and I’m like nah, didn’t like that Od. Idk anymore, just play what you like.
 

shawnerie

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I’m so sick of watching these pedal shows and reviews where they’re speechless over everything they plug in! I was looking over my gear table with thousands of dollars in high end pedals and I can’t find one I like. I’ve bought so many highly regarded pedals and sold them immediately.

I thought, something’s deeply wrong with me. Or is it? Maybe there’s others?
I think the issue probably lies with your amp and/or guitar; without the pedals do you like your guitar sound directly into your amp? If not, maybe those things should be changed first. I see the guitar as the first and key part of the equation, and that’s what the pedals have to work with. What sort of amp and guitar are you playing?
Next it’s about dialing in the sound; do you have a reference sound that you wish to aim for? If you don’t then perhaps the approach is to listen to your sound and to see how it is different from your ideal sound and make adjustments to bridge the gap.
 

Johnny Fuzz

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It is annoying to watch shows where they are sounding pretty weak and yet they are raving like they discovered butter for the first time. Most pedals are meh. Some are amazing. Some are complete ****.
 
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I’ve really gotten over pedals. I can’t keep up with this craze of boutique pedals that make you sound like everything but your guitar. I can’t get my head around it. So you don’t want to play a guitar properly so you buy a box that makes it sound like an algorithm, like you just fired up your computer and you can spend the night staring at your f*ckin’ shoes? C’mon man…

I know I’ll get sh*t for saying this, but it’s f*cking lazy. It’s insulting to people who spent 35 years playing and learning, like a lot of players. And we continue to work at it! These guys can barely play a chord but call themselves soundscapists. Get the f*ck outta here! It’s bullsh*t. There’s so much masking and spin going on there. Can we get real for a minute? What do you actually play? Pick up an acoustic guitar… try that!
 

Jabby92

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I don't think all pedals suck, but I do think a lot of them are way overpriced. The boutique market is ridiculous and a lot of it IMO is not worth the money, especially with overdrives and distortions which 95% are copies/clones of existing circuits. Some times they do add some really useful changes but its rare. I think its much more efficient to have a great sounding amp, and just slightly enhance it with a pedal but personally I have no desire to own a dozen OD pedals when I can get the sound I like out of the amp itself.
 

Sam Xavier

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I'm neither. I look at demos for an idea of what something can do. I listen to the sounds they produce and consider how I could use them.

OTOH, I'm not ever looking for OD/Distortion/Fuzz pedals, which helps a lot. I'm already happy with my core tones and so anything I buy is for seasoning, such as modulation, pitch and delay effects.
 




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