arion chorus'?

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I have seen these on a number of pro rigs. Always associated arion with cheap stuff - but these are good? Any particular time period or only one's made in a particular country, or...?

Also if anyone can describe the attraction of this particular chorus...

thanks for the help...
 

BluePowder

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I've been very fortunate to get one recently in mint condition!

It's crazy almost like travelling back in time. I bought a black MIJ SCH-1 Arion Stereo Chorus from a local pedal collector here in Singapore liquidating his collection as he was relocating overseas.

The tones are really great, absolutely no harshness, it can go from subtle to really thick. To nice smooth chorus to even aggressive pitch shifted leslie tones.

Stack it with some distortion and you can get the Scott Henderson Live Album tone! Tone only...not playing:D

If you're able to find a SCH1 grab it, I believe there is a grey version supposedly more desirabe than the black one.

However if you look at the board of Henderson, Landua and Allen Hinds, they have all switched over to the Xotic tweaked version of the SCH-Z that features true bypass shifting.
 

landru64

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personally i think the retro-sonic chorus does everything the arion does and does it better, with true bypass, great build quality, the ability to switch between two arion-type sounds, etc. the arion also adds a significant (and to some annoying) gain boost that can really mess with your gain structure. some of the rehouses out there might address this, but i'm not sure.

just my two cents.
 
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Thanks for the input, both of youse - so the sch-z is less desirable generally? I've seen ones made in Japan or Sri Lanka, maybe I need to buy them and sort it out.

Retro sonic looks interesting - though the price is right on the arion......
 

Jason Lynn

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I got one for $15 from MF a while ago...but heard they discontinued. Japanese versions are analog as understand but I love mine. If your anal...wait for a vintage one...otherwise go for a cheapy new one. check out GregV's clip...Bend the Dusty Road....and you'll be sold. This is what the Arion does best.
 

landru64

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yeah the sch-z is just plain not desirable. the sch-1's have two versions: the grey bottom ones and the black bottom ones. meaning the plastic around the base of the unit is gray or black. i have compared 6 of them, some black, some gray side by side and there was enough variation-- and enough goodness-- in all of them that i wouldn't necessarily get too obsessed about finding a gray bottom one.
 

Jason Lynn

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yeah the sch-z is just plain not desirable. the sch-1's have two versions: the grey bottom ones and the black bottom ones. meaning the plastic around the base of the unit is gray or black. i have compared 6 of them, some black, some gray side by side and there was enough variation-- and enough goodness-- in all of them that i wouldn't necessarily get too obsessed about finding a gray bottom one.

sch-z.....I humbly disagree. For the price...try one.
 
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Thanks for all this - and the GregV clip was great - I was playing all day with my rotosphere, wishing it wasn't so big, good news about this pedal!
 

CaseyI

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the only thing that bugs me about the schz is the volume boost when engaged. I guess it's better than a volume drop.
 

nlopez

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the only thing that bugs me about the schz is the volume boost when engaged. I guess it's better than a volume drop.


That's the truth! I had a Schz and thought it rivaled my AM clone for leslie sounds!
 

gkelm

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yeah the sch-z is just plain not desirable. the sch-1's have two versions: the grey bottom ones and the black bottom ones. meaning the plastic around the base of the unit is gray or black. i have compared 6 of them, some black, some gray side by side and there was enough variation-- and enough goodness-- in all of them that i wouldn't necessarily get too obsessed about finding a gray bottom one.

I agree, the SCH-1 is my fav...grey or blk. And the Retro-Sonic would be my second choice.

Greg
 

MikeMcK

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I bought an SCH-Z when someone online was blowing them out for $15... definitely a bang for the buck, but a little noisy and gritty for me. Maybe it was just this one, but there was definitely some slight clipping on the chorus.
 

cg

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i have the sch-z and can't stand it. maybe I'm just not a chorus guy. sounds very cold and synthetic to me. it also introduces a noticeable volume bump when engaged. i hate that pedal. :)
 

tonefreak

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SCH-Z is different from the SCH-1. Sure, there are folks that say they are the same, but I've had little more than a dozen of these pass my shop and SCH-Z just doesn't sound the same when doing an A/B test against the SCH-1.
 

mcdes

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I had both at the same time (SH1 vs SHZ). And, the SHZ won in my opinion.


im the other way round, i still own both.

but when i a/b'd them i found the sch-1 was a bit more natural and smoother, but i think they both still sound great, lush rich chorus pedals.
 




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