@wedewer Booooooooooo It's 2018, STOP complaining about others "complaining." If I'm reading your posts correctly you don't even own or use an AFB. You use a Kemper and A12 and came to this thread specifically to say, "This thread is an example of the main reason I am not on TGP as much as I used to be." Hallelujah! Atomic is happy to get feedback about their products. Anyone who makes a product is happy to get feedback on how they can make their product better or more useful. Atomic responded to the same conversations around delay not being present on the AFB by adding it. Delay along with reverb made the AFB a more complete all-in-one solution AND caused more people to buy it. You characterize these conversations about ways to make the product better or more useful as "complaining" but it isn't, it is valuable feedback for a company who is trying to make products that it can sell to the most people.