Attn: Grosh Set Neck owners

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  1. Steeltoe

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    I have a Set Neck (#62) with Fralin Unbuckers 8 & 9k.
    The amplified tones are a little "dark", a little
    lacking in "zing". Unplugged, the acoustics are fine.
    I was wondering what anyone else thinks about this?
    Also, I have been pondering swapping them out for
    something a little brighter. Perhaps some good low
    output PAFs?
    Also, it has the Wilkinson wraparound bridge.
    Any suggestions or comments welcome.
     
  2. pirateflynn

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    I'd be surprised if the Fralin Unbuckers were the source of the "dark" tone. What amp are you using?
     
  3. Trebor Renkluaf

    Trebor Renkluaf I was hit by a parked car, what's your excuse? Gold Supporting Member

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    I'm with pirateflynn about the pickups - Fralins tend to be on the bright side of the pickup tonal spectrum. Perhaps he used 250K pots instead of 500K? As for the bridge, the Wilkinson is a good bridge but I think you'll find most people here prefer the Pigtail. I have one on my Heritage H-137 and it sounds and feels great!
     
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    Try adjusting the Pole Pieces on the Humbuckers. Raising them slightly will give you more presence. - Also try lowering the Bass side of the Pickups slightly.
    I find Don's Set Necks to be a slightly Dark sounding Guitar. A Solid Mahogany body has a Low midrange peak. = Lower the Bass, and turn up the Treble on your Amp!
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  5. Kappy

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    Really good suggestion. Should make a big difference. I love those pickups in my semi-hollow Set Neck.
     
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    I have a tweed amp with a "normal" and "bright" input. I find that it makes a huge difference. Into the Normal, the sound is dark, but into the bright input, the guitar is a lot more chimey and sparkley (I don't have time to think of better adjectives right now). I think your amp and/or amp settings will make a difference. You should try that before messing with the pickups...

    This is the case either clean or through an overdrive pedal - two different characters depending on the input i go through.

    Good luck!
     
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    Trebor Renkluaf I was hit by a parked car, what's your excuse? Gold Supporting Member

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    I have this one incoming...
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  8. tedwoods

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    Naturally, I agree with the rest of the posters about the Fralins. My Setnecks also both came wired with treble bleed capacitor/resistor networks as stock...I believe that's the case with all Setnecks.
    If you want to try something different though, I've settled on a WCR Bet Set with an RS kit for mine.The tones coming out of this combo are REALLY good!

    Ted
     
  9. Steeltoe

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    Thanks guys. My main rig is a mesa lonestar classic
    into a lonestar openback 2x12 with a stock celestion black shadow and an eminence govenor.
    If I play the set neck alongside my comparable guitars-
    a '58 cloud 9 LP and a prs singlecut, with the amps settings equal, the set neck is always the darkest sounding of the three. I do have the bass down and treble and presence up on the amp.
    I am going to try adjusting the pole pieces and pickup
    height before I do anything else.
    Lord have mercy on me for -gasp- thinking of swapping
    out fralins![​IMG]
     
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    Yes on MB Hollywood! It's been maybe two years since
    I scored it there.
    Well, tonight I rehearsed with my band, after raising
    the pole pieces 1/2 turn, and lowering both pickups.
    It helped, yes indeed! I also increased the treble and presence knobs a bit on my amp. I was comparing the Setneck with my PRS Singlecut, which has newly installed Dimarzio PAFs (the newest '08 version), going back and forth between the two. Now the Setneck is rockin! So is the Singlecut...both are stage ready now.
    Smokin' tones a plenty tonight!
    I never knew those Unbuckers could sound so good.
    Thanks for the help.
     
  12. Eugene

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    Good to hear everything wored out! I was scratching my head on your dilema as I've always found my Set Neck to be "zingy"...no doubt due to the Fralins. Can't say enough good things about the Set Neck...its a wonderful instrument.

    Enjoy it!

    Eugene
     
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    :drool:drool:drool I have this one:

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    and this one incoming for demo:

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    That charcoal one is unbelievably cool and unique.
     

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