Discussion in 'Guitars in General' started by xrleroyx, Jan 30, 2015.
Are these usually poly or nitro?
The sherwood green JM. It's a 2006 I think.
aren't they all nitro with a poly sealer?
I don't know.
They are, underneath the poly is nitro.
So it's basically a nitro finish with a poly clear coat?
strike that reverse it.
The Nitro is on top and the poly-based sealer is underneath the nitro just like in the good old days. Fender has used some sort of poly-based sealer since the 60s IIRC. Not that big of a deal IMO
I'm mainly curious because the guitar is garnering a lot of playwear. Not that it's a bad thing, I play this guitar a TON. Was just always curious to learn more about it. Picked it up at GC in 2012 for $1k + OHSC!
Yogi is correct. Poly-based sealer, nitro color coats, nitro clear.
Sherwood Green was only available from 199-2000. The color in the photo looks like Ocean Turquoise though. Definitely not Sherwood Green. That color was available from 2003-2009 so 2006 is totally possible.
Everyone else already answered your question though. Great looking JM!!!
Yep, "nitro" over poly. It's also my thinking that your particular JM is Ocean Turquoise. I've been looking for an Ocean Turquoise Jazzmaster for a while, so if you ever decide to sell...
SHERWOOD GREEN vs OCEAN TURQUOISE:
It's the typical Fender bowling ball finish--thick poly with a hint of nitro to be able to market it that way.
You say that it is wearing? Can we see a pic of that?
These finishes usually don't wear at all--they chip, but that's about it.
They absolutely wear. You can find tons of pictures on the internet of the reissues with player wear. Fender has shot nitro over a sealer forever and that is how all the old coveted guitars are finished. They all have player wear too. The whole "thin coat" and "wood breathing" is a new thing in the guitar community. The older AVRI finishes are probably closer to the 60's method than the current ones. Of course the nitro we use now is nothing like the nitro used back then so it's all moot anyway.
they do wear especially the necks which are all nitro.
they do stuff like this (weather crazing)
mine is a 2002 avri jag
Body looks brand new. Very cool guitar!
Can you find a few and post them?
Honestly that took me like 5 minutes. Feel free to google yourself too. The nitro over sealer is exactly how it was done in the old days so no reason it shouldn't wear the same way.
Those were the very first re-issues from 82 and 83.
What about something more recent?
Wait you are saying that the way the current RI's are finished is "exactly" the way it was done in the 50's and 60's?
Have you seen many of those finishes?
Not. The. Same.
I am saying that even in the old days nitro was shot over a sealer. It was called fullerplast. The nitro that anyone uses is different these days. It doesn't matter if it's thin, thick or shot over poly.
As far as them being older of course that is what shows up more often in photos. Most people don't creatr players wear within 2-3 years. I am not sure what you are getting out. You said the current reissues with nitro over poly don't wear the same as the old ones. I did a quick search and found a few examples.
Great info guys.