Discussion in 'Digital & Modeling Gear' started by stratzrus, Jan 29, 2018.
Didn't know that, makes the HX Fx even more worth the money then.
That's what i wondered too. Footswitch probably.
That's Larry Mitchell (not me).
Axe-Edit is outstanding, and yes the grid layout is the easiest to work with and comprehend.
For all the great things the Helix interface does, I find its effects chain layout to be awkward, by comparison. It’s not bad, just not my favorite. I’m sure others dig it.
Award winning apparently...
Well. Can post another clip tonight.
I honestly don't know how you could find the Helix path system confusing. It's essentially the same thing as the Axe Edit grid, but with some of the first routing steps taken care for you.
I don’t know what that means.
From what I understand, the Axe-FX II has won quite a few awards from various magazines, and by extension so has Axe-Edit.
I didn’t say it was confusing. I said it was awkward. For me. I had to look at it and play with it to figure out what exactly was going on. I still don’t care for the loopy wires look. A single glance at the Axe-Fx grid and I knew exactly what was going on. And again I’ll state, I’m sure other people feel differently.
Get your latest AxeFx to play Aint Talkin' Bout Love... BORING.
I really miss quality guitar music, and I don't care if it was recorded using a DS-1 or AxeFX 4.
My comment was in jest because a certain user got hung up on that bit earlier in this thread even though he himself said that he wouldn't buy an Axe Fx II/III.
Although, he isn't entirely wrong....
Axe grid lets you move in and out of the paths or link them in ways you cannot with Helix.
Yeah I don't dispute that.
I was going to say, sounds like Lil Wayne's been practicing
I have an AX8 and Helix Native and I do find the Fractal grid more flexible and easier to understand and work with. I think there is good reason Boss also adopted a grid design for the GT-1000. Nevertheless, I still really like Native.
I just hope there’s a effort to make more pre made effects. I don’t have the interest to learn how to create complex effects from scratch - I’d rather pay for someone to do the legwork. There’s a fair amount stuff floating around the fractal forum but it all depends so much on if you have the same firmware and platform. Hopefully they make it easier to share and/or purchase effects. Not all of us want to learn how to reverse engineer complex effects and build from scratch
Huh? You don't have to build effects from scratch on any of the Fractal models.
Well, that's not entirely true. There's some things that are built in to other units as ready to use effects that you have to construct on your own with the Fractal models. A good example of this is the Slow Gear.
If it makes you feel any better it was very counter intuitive in Native coming from the Axe and Amplifire (and a bunch of lesser stuff including line 6 past devices).
I had been used to the unlimited connectivity on the AFX grid and it was really goofy and limiting to suddenly have stuff grayed out on one path but not on another, etc. It may make more sense on the device... and navigation and all that may be easy but I could see how in a preset, being used to completely arbitrary routing along lines with the only constraint being sum total of block flavors, that the Helix stuff makes you feel like you are doing more mental arithmetic and in the back of my head it immediately feels more limiting.
TBH, I have never owned another guitar unit that required me to think about the underlying architecture like that (the limits along one DSP path versus another), ever. I would find this a barrier to use if I ever moved to the hardware unit. Navigation is not as big a deal to me. I can deal with buttons and dials and menus.