Axe FX III

bdrepko

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Sounds like they finally fixed the dropout problem. That was the biggest reason I went away from Fractal.
 

Hoth

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I echo a lot of the comments already. I am really happy with the Ax8 and cannot imagine anything "realer." But Cliff is always pushing the envelope and I am sure before long he will figure out a way to use all of the processing power if he has not already.

I can't believe the price point this is coming in at. With everyone all over the music world hiking prices to insane levels, to price this at the AxeII level is pretty amazing. Competition is indeed an incredible force to propel us forward. Kudos to the L6 Helix and Kemper teams for their incredible products to push us all forward.

I have been choosing this last month between the Helix and the Ax8. I think though what I am going to do is sell the Ax8 and use my Helix as a floorboard to control the Axe III. This gives me about a month to put together the money.

I sold my soul for rock n' roll!
 

mattball826

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So you weren’t able to dial out any darkness to the amps? Ive been using an AX8 for a good while now I don’t have issues with not dialing in a tone that isn’t too dark. I played Sunday with my AX8 and I’m having issues with my ears feeling full due to allergies and still didn’t find my tone too dark.
when you jump from Helix, KPA, to Axe, tonality differences are certainly there. Many Axe users like the darker more cleaned up recorded tone, and I like it more open with the ability to clean it up if I wanted. Very obvious differences with Mesa tones among those 3.

I find that those who play just a BE or Marshall tone 80's goo with loads of fx, then the differences are minor. Since most gravitate towards that Marshall or BE tone, with extra gain it's hard to notice as much. I'm not the only one that describes the darker tone of FAS products. Many people did, and that was a primary reason many fled FAS once other co's introduced IR loading capability and improved their amp models.
 

phil_m

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It looks cool... It's interesting to see how much the industrial design of the Helix has influenced all segments of this market now. I think it's funny that when the AX8 came out, Cliff said the reason they didn't do a color screen was they "put the money into where it mattered" or something like that... Someone must have convinced him having color mattered... :)
 

LaXu

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when you jump from Helix, KPA, to Axe, tonality differences are certainly there. Many Axe users like the darker more cleaned up recorded tone, and I like it more open with the ability to clean it up if I wanted. Very obvious differences with Mesa tones among those 3.

I find that those who play just a BE or Marshall tone 80's goo with loads of fx, then the differences are minor. Since most gravitate towards that Marshall or BE tone, with extra gain it's hard to notice as much. I'm not the only one that describes the darker tone of FAS products. Many people did, and that was a primary reason many fled FAS once other co's introduced IR loading capability and improved their amp models.
Wouldn't any perceived darker sound be just a few knob tweaks to fix on any of the units?
 

mattball826

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I echo a lot of the comments already. I am really happy with the Ax8 and cannot imagine anything relaer. But Cliff is always pushing the envelope and I am sure before long he will figure out a way to use all of the processing power if he has not already.

I can't believe the price point this is coming in at. With everyone all over the music world hiking prices to insane levels, to price this at the AxeII level is pretty amazing. Competition is indeed an incredible force to propel us forward. Kudos to the L6 Helix and Kemper teams for their incredible products to push us all forward.

I have been choosing this last month between the Helix and the Ax8. I think though what I am going to do is sell the Ax8 and use my Helix as a floorboard to control the Axe III. This gives me about a month to put together the money.

I sold my soul for rock n' roll!
Made in China maybe? Not that it matters since just about all the parts, electronics, boards are.
 

Jarrett

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I was never concerned about the "realer" thing, I just wanted it to sound good and I'm pretty sure this thing is going to sound great! Can't wait to try it out.
Yeah, I think its more of a comment about the user than the tech.

At some point we have to get beyond the "does it sound as good as an amp" thing and start to realize that these things do that and a million new things. We need more musical innovators to break the mold of guitar/amp and use this new tech to do something new that could never be done before with tubes.
 

mattball826

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Wow, being a fractal user that doesn't go to fractal forums, I must say I was pretty damn shocked when I saw this appear on my Facebook feed. I've had my Axe FX II for about 3 years now and not once has it given me any technical problems and 3 years later I'm still scratching the surface of this incredible tone platform....a testament to an incredibly well made product. I can only imagine how good the III will be......am I upgrading? No. Why fix it if it ain't broke?
Green Screen meh (dated dated dated)... bigger color screen is moar cooler
 

Ericjutsu

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holy ****. If I had money, Id buy this immediately! Seems like Fractal are a generation ahead of everyone else. I can't wait to see what they do with this beast. Not that I'm dissatisfied with the Helix at all. I must own this one day!
 

Pietro

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Helix fan boi here.

I think a lot of people are going to say this is a reaction to Helix.

Maybe not. Because something this well-thought out was probably in the works (at least the early stages) before Helix showed up, if his cycle is anything like Line 6s

Even if it’s not... DAY um... that is a FANASTIC feature set.

Not going to buy one, can’t afford it, but I bet it does my whole “two-voice” guitar thing AWESOME!

I don’t think it competes with Kemper (totally different approach) or Line 6 (totally different price point)... Fractal is, again, in a class (price-class that is...) by themselves... (still love my Helix, tho...)
 

Yek

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when you jump from Helix, KPA, to Axe, tonality differences are certainly there. Many Axe users like the darker more cleaned up recorded tone, and I like it more open with the ability to clean it up if I wanted. Very obvious differences with Mesa tones among those 3.

I find that those who play just a BE or Marshall tone 80's goo with loads of fx, then the differences are minor. Since most gravitate towards that Marshall or BE tone, with extra gain it's hard to notice as much. I'm not the only one that describes the darker tone of FAS products. Many people did, and that was a primary reason many fled FAS once other co's introduced IR loading capability and improved their amp models.
A simple A/B comparison test, like the one with Larry Mitchell, through a real cab or an IR, demonstrates that the models aren't darker than their real-life equivalents.
 

mikah912

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Looks cool, but the most exciting thing about it will be it depressing Axe-FX II prices a bit on the used market.

That's not being glib. Grabbing one of the glut of Axe-FX II units that will hit the secondhand market (maybe for $1300, who knows) and pairing it with my $800 Helix LT as a partner and floor controller gives me all the everythings that I would hope for from this Axe-FX III.
 

mikah912

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Also, I applaud the color screen, but I hope it brings some on-unit UI optimization/improvements as well.
 




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