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Axetrak

Discussion in 'Recording/Live Sound' started by Srini, Sep 20, 2005.

  1. Srini

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    Anyone have this thing? Used it? Any thoughts?

    Thanks!

    Srini
     
  2. tonefreak

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    I have one... the version right before the current ones.

    It's sitting in my garage collecting dust.
     
  3. TAVD

    TAVD Guitar Player Gold Supporting Member

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    Hah, from what I've heard, that seems to be a common fate among those things.
     
  4. tonefreak

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    I tried like hell to get a good sound from this thing. The rhythms were kinda alright, but getting a decent lead tone was impossible.

    Literally, in my garage, collecting dust, and I have no intention of ever using that thing again.
     
  5. Srini

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    What a shame - sure looks great on paper.

    Anyone tried building an isolation cabinet of your own?

    Srini
     
  6. TAVD

    TAVD Guitar Player Gold Supporting Member

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    The demeter and randall iso cabs are marginally better.

    How much space do you have? If space isn't an issue, build a box within a box, large enough for a 1x12 cab and a mic. Use similar methods as you would in a room design: 1" MDF, insulation b/t the boxes, sound treatment in the inner box.
     
  7. Srini

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    Hmmmm....might just have to do that...
     
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    TAVD Guitar Player Gold Supporting Member

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    I'm seriously considering the Demeter Silent Speaker Iso-Cab....It has to be better than POD or any other digital simulator. Being stuck in an apartment, my options are quite limited.

    Any Demeter Silent Speaker users?
     
  10. tonefreak

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    Here's something I did with my silent speaker box:

    Clip
     
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    tonefreak,

    Was that the AxeTrak??

    It sounded pretty darn good on my computer speakers. For compromised situations, apartments, late night, etc, that sounded fine. I have not been able to get anything that good out of my POD or Amplitube. Everything gets mushy when you layer gtr tracks. I think a speaker, in a box or not, is waaay better than any direct digital sim. I know there are those who get good results with POD etc, but for me it's not a workable solution.
     
  12. tonefreak

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    I do not use the Axetrak... it still collects dust!

    I have made my own Iso Speaker Cabinet box that I fit a CAA 1x12 cabinet into.

    BUT, the clip I provided above was using the PODxt as a speaker sim for 100% of the guitars you hear. Here is my signal flow:

    Amp > THD Hotplate > Line Out > PODxt (studio Mode) > PODxt speaker sim

    PODxt is a very useful tool that provide great tone.
     
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    Now I am totally confused!!!!!

    I would never think that was a POD. Even the samples on the Line6 site sound like crap.

    Is it the kidney shaped PODxt or the rack mount PODxtPro?

    So, you can bypass the amp models and just use the PODxt as a speaker sim?

    ....I just listened to your clip again on my speakers at work and it sounds totally different, but I now know its a POD....hmmmm.

    Do like the sound of your homebrew iso-cab or the POD set up better?

    Thanks.
     
  14. tonefreak

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    Homemade ISO Box:

    ISO Box Clip

    PODxt (bean) speaker sim:

    PODxt Speaker Sim

    I like the PODxt speaker sim better because I don't have to worry about mics, cable, mic placement, mic preamps, etc. I bypass all the amp sims and run just the speaker cabinet sims. For me, this is really cool because I can run 1x12, 2x12, 4x10 and 4x12s with different mics, mic placement, and speakers.

    Nothing beats a great sounding live room with a cranked 4x12, but I don't have that luxury. I record late at night at my house, so silence if very important to me.
     
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    hmmmm...

    If your recording late at night, where does the output of the Hot Plate go to? Even if you are using the line out, doesn't it need to to go to a speaker as well?

    Have you ever tried the palmer or motherload speaker sims?
     
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    Hotplate is set to "load", which produces no sound from the speaker. But I still connect the 'speaker out' to my cabinet for added measure.

    I've tried the Motherload, Palmer PGA-04, Voodoo Lab CabTone, H&K Redbox, etc... I don't like any of them.
     
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    This is all very interesting....

    I may have to rethink things. I guess I would need to check out one of the PODs and the speaker sims.....
     
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    Remember, if you are a more skilled sound engineer, you're results could very well surpass mine.

    Keep in mind... of all the people I've played my PODxt speaker sim clips to, all assumed I was using a mic'd speaker cabinet. In fact the only question that came up was what kind of speaker I was using! :D

    I've learned to dismiss something based on my own experiences. People dog the POD all the time without knowing or attempting to tap into it's true potential.
     
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    This info has been real helpful. I'm not happy with digital amp sims, but I never thought to use a POD just for a speaker sim. I've read where some guys do the same with NI Guitar Rig.

    Thanks for all the info. Do you have any more clips with the amp>HotPlate>POD setup?
     

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