BA Tri/Ram vs BE Musket

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  1. Zeon45

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    Looking for great MUFF tones with versatile tone shaping controls. Both pedals sound great in the demos. Which one provides most organic Muff tones? Thanks.
     
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    What does "organic" mean?
     
  3. Zeon45

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    Natural sounding. Not synthetic or processed.
     
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    Muffs arent really known for being natural, most have a quality to the highs that isnt amp like!

    However, the Muskett is a bit different that most muffs in that it sounds good at lower gains and more 'natural' in that role.
     
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    With the big muff you are running your guitar (or whatever) through so many gain/clipping stages what comes out is anything but organic.

    I guess if I had to answer I might say the pharaoh, because it really sounds nothing like a muff should (both a positive and a negative depending what you are looking for), and it works well with my amps high gain channel like no other fuzz can.
     
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    The Musket sounded a bit more modern hi-fi sounding to me whereas the Tri/Ram has a sort of vintage sweetness - more complex harmonics...
     
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    I'd check out the Hoof. Such a great muff variant. And I've tried "all of the above" except the tri ram.
     
  8. Zeon45

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    I tried the Pharoah and didn't care for it. I'm looking for a Muff with some clarity and note separation. Not a wall of sonic mush. Alot of the ones I've tried aren't very musical. The SUF Muffs are a good example of what I like. I'm leaning towards the BA Tri/Ram but the Musket seems interesting too.
     
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    Barber Trifecta will do vintage, organic, and versatile.

    EQD Hoof is another good choice.

    SUF is my favorite, but they won't have tone shaping options you seek.
     
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    Thanks. That's what I wanted to hear. Now I need to find a BA Tri/Ram.
     
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    I have the Hoof but can't seem to dial it in with my rig. It's promising but I need to try it with some different guitars and amps.
     
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    I'd be surprised if there's a Muff around that can beat the Musket for clarity and note separation, given it three-band eq and Pre knob, which REALLY heightens the articulation. If you want a warmer/looser/more vintage Muff then there are better choices, but you'll be sacrificing articulation. -E

     
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    Tough choice. They both sound great.
     
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    You should also look at the Basic Audio Foxey Lady - I found it to be a more articulate, although slightly less HUGE than the Tri/Ram.
     
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    I already have the BA Foxey Lady and Scarab Deluxe. Thge Foxey Lady is pretty good but I wish it was a bit smoother with less noise. Again, it could be my rig too. I tend to use Strats with single coils into 5E3 Tweed Deluxe amps most of the time. I think most fuzz pedals, especially brighter ones, seem to do well into darker amps.
     
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    Amp headroom could be a factor as well.

     
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    Definitely +1
     
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    I have yet to try a Musket, but based on the demos I have heard of it, I would agree. I can nearly nail the tones of my original Triangle Muff with my Basic Audio Tri/Ram, it can also do a lot more, but it definitely seems more vintage sounding than the Musket. Also, John is awesome!
     

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