Bach Upside-Down

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  1. guitarjazz

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  2. windmill

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    I dont know the music in question well enough to figure it out for myself and the article doesnt spell it out clearly enough for me

    has he just "ïnverted" the score ?

    That is, has he started at bar one and made the lowest note the highest, and the highest the lowest ? And then continued this through the piece.

    So that the notes are the same, just displaced into other octaves ?
     
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    I think he wrote a program that inverted the score?
     
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    Subtle anti-lefty thread detected.
     
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  5. JonR

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    Reminds me of the time back when I was learning my first classical guitar pieces (late 60s). I taped one (a Mozart tune), reversed the tape and played it backwards. Sounded pretty cool. Those dudes knew how to construct lines that work both ways...
     
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    "Those dudes knew how to construct lines that work both ways" makes no sense on many musical levels.:facepalm
     
  8. JonR

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    Well, maybe I was exaggerating - and I didn't mean both ways at the same time ;).

    What I meant was: the melody of the piece I was talking about worked as a nice sounding piece of music when played in reverse. What's nonsensical about that? Obvously it was a different melody (and harmonic sequence), as the tune wasn't palindromic. ;)

    This is the piece I meant (this is not me playing, it's a sibelius file reversed with audacity).
     
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  9. JonR

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    Looks great. Now if I only had a whole bunch of enforced time alone with nothing better to do than delve into some esoteric mysticism about patterns in art and music, then...

    Oh, wait... :jo
     
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    Schillinger would disagree.
     
  11. GuitarMakerNyc

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    Doubt it, but I'm happy to debate any Bach/Mozart line in question. Put up the notes ladies...
     
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  12. guitarjazz

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    The only real question is: do you like the result?
     
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    Is this 'negative harmony'?
    Like here:
     
  14. GuitarMakerNyc

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    Obviously people can write any poorly constructed line they like. I'm glad I've studied enough not to think that way. It's doubtful Bach, Coltrane and Stravinsky thought that way either. ;)
     
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    wow! beautiful, loved it.
     
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  17. johnsav

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    Weirdly compelling, right?
    I'd like to sync both Stairways at once but not sure how to do it.
    There are other of examples of negative harmony on youtube.
     
  18. JonR

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    Careful. That would be like matter meeting anti-matter. The world might explode.
     
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    Here's another interesting 'negative harmony' cover from youtube, Toto's Africa.
     

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