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Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs' started by RolloTomassi, May 24, 2011.
Vote, why did you make your pick
Bad Cat true hand wired vs Vox sweatshop labor hand assembly and PCB's
Bad Cat is just a much sweeter amp IMHO.
I just love the Black Cat; sounds great and has the EF86 channel. Furthermore, I like the dissimilar speakers, just seems to add something extra.
On the other hand, I'd like to own a 'real handwired' Vox, just for the vibe and history (and it too sounds great).
In the end, I bought something akin to the Black Cat (Matchless DC30), because I can't have both a Vox and Bad Cat/Matchless (I used to have a Black Cat, but stupidly sold it. Fortunately a DC30 was available used at a good price)
pcb? dont think so
Never tried the bad cat yet, like to someday
Vox for availability and price. Heritage AC15 local for $800 out the door.
No bad cats to be seen nor heard.
For a seriously FINE AC 15 build, I'd go for the Magic Amps Brit MKII TB86.
The Bad Cats just need tube and speaker upgrades.
I've never played or heard one of the Vox handwired series amps. I'm sure they are great. I'm a Bad Cat owner, so I'm probably a little biased!
I had a Hot Cat 15 custom shop, and now I have a Vox AC15 handwired with an alnico blue. I honestly think the Vox sounds better, it's just a preference. The badcat had better cleans but I didn't really like the "hot" channel.
The Hot Cat sounded fine but I had some issues with the effects loop and reverb. They are a pain in the ass for someone in a shop to work on because there are no schematics and there are wires all over the place, luckily the amp tech I went to was able to reverse engineer it a bit to figure out the issues.
There's something to be said about having a "simple" single-channel amp without bells and whistles. I'd probably try one of the single-channel badcats if they didn't cost a fortune.
LOL, hey sweatshop hands are no different than regular, well paid hands right?
I always prefer "the real thing", but since Chinese Vox is not more "real thing" than a Bad Cat, I'd go for the Cat.
You'd be surprised at how little a builder pays himself
on a build that might take a few days to a week.
They could all earn much more doing repairs on all the stuff
that can't handle the road.
If you saw the gut shots of a Bad Cat vs a Vox AC15, you'd see what I'm
While Bad Cat does cut corners on OEM tubes and speakers,
the primary components and build execution are far superior to
anything Vox is delivering.
I agree, I didnt want to appear biased because I'm the OP, but I've always felt Badcats are well polished amps based on the Vox AC design, they improved it