Band democracy

Discussion in 'The Pub' started by Rick Lee, Jun 13, 2019.

  1. lp_bruce

    lp_bruce Member

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    I don't play with people I consider idiots. So for me, that alone is a deal breaker. Life is too short to spend time around people I don't genuinely like. Particularly since music--for me--is a hobby. I take it pretty seriously and try to write/record/perform the best music I can, but I choose to play music.
     
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    This
     
  3. sandcastle

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    I submit that it's harder to hold a band together than it is to build a house of cards on the deck of a heaving ship.
     
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  4. Tone Meister

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    In a band democracy, any individual member should be able to veto any song, eliminating the possibility of being "overridden", IMO
     
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  5. Killcrop

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    I wouldn’t want to do those songs either. Most bands do well with a single leader that knows how to pick his battles. Also if someone in a band really objects to a song it will never sound good if they are forced to play it. There are so many songs out there why force anything?
     
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  6. DCross

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    People have crazy ideas about songs to play, in my experience. I have had discussions with potential bandmates that boggle my mind - just because you love Revolution #9, doesn't mean that 99.9% of your audience wants to hear it. I mean, play what you want to play, especially if it's just for fun, but consider the audience a little too - if you want to have an audience.

    A Rush tribute band is going to attract everyone from casual fans (most of the audience) to fanatics who will criticize you for using the wrong gauge of strings or missing a hi-hat hit in measure 23 of Spirit of the Radio. (I personally just hope you play Fly By Night).

    Blah blah, I'm rambling -bottom line, it sounds like you've had it with them and maybe they've had it with you. Time to quit or else get a new drummer.

    edit: I think most successful bands are dictatorships not democracies. Benevolent dictatorships, but dictatorships nonetheless.
     
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  7. andybaylor

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    All solid points.
     
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  8. rowdyyates

    rowdyyates Supporting Member

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    1. Thinks another member is an idiot
    2. Plays “insanely loud”
    3. Never start on time

    Sounds like fun to me :(
     
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    The longer I’m on this site the more it seems like High School revisited.
     
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  10. Rick Lee

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    Well, to the first point, I'll never complain about the drummer's chops. The man can play. Although he does go rogue from the correct drum parts Neil plays on albums and live. But everything else about him makes me want to buy a voodoo doll of him and torture it.

    Yeah, we like to play insanely loud, but only at practice, not gigs. We all wear ear protection and the noise doesn't reach anyone else.

    I have never been late for anything in my life. But the few gigs we've had, we've always, always started way late because of the drummer setting up. He wants six GoPro cameras, a fog machine, a laser here and there, you know the kind of stuff a pro touring band might have if they had a crew and weren't cramming to get it all done in the 20 min. changeover between bands. We had two nights of outdoor mall gigs two years ago, where we were responsible for sound and lights. Drummer arrived four hours early to set up and we still started 15-20 min. late each night. And he wonders why we didn't get asked back for the next tribute band month.
     
  11. MatchFive

    MatchFive Silver Supporting Member

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    Tell them it's not a democracy and you're the dictator..
     
  12. Blanket Jackson

    Blanket Jackson ¿Qué Hiciste? Silver Supporting Member

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    3 guys in the band, and the other two feel the need to send you an email to give you an ultimatum.
    LOL
    I bet they label their office lunch Tupperware, and leave Post-It notes about issues like toilet paper and dirty dishes LOL
     
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    " Band democracy ". Sounds like an oxymoron. :cool:
     
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  14. Rick Lee

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    Since you mention it, I've had to block them both on my phone before because of the rapid-fire 30-40 texts they'll send in a five minute period. I use my phone every minute of the day for navigation, appt. setting and running quotes, and plenty of times it's been unusable because of these guys' text wars. I block them both for a day or two, then send a text, asking when next practice is.
     
  15. Jon Silberman

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    I have no wonderful words of wisdom. Jorma Kaukonen might, though (his song about leaving Jefferson Airplane):

    Sometimes I feel like i am leaving life behind
    My hands are moving faster than the movement of my mind
    Thoughts and generations of my dreams are yet unborn
    I hope that I will find them 'fore my moving gets too worn
    If only I could live to see the dawning of the dawn

    So we go on moving trying to make this image real
    Straining every nerve not knowing what we really feel
    Straining every nerve ending and everybody sees
    That what they read in the Rolling Stone has really come to be
    And trying to avoid a taste of that reality

    On an early New York morning a mirror in the hall
    Showed to me a face I didn't know at all
    Lines were drawn around a pair of eyes that opened wide
    When I looked into the mouth there was nothing left inside
    So I walked into the little room and whistled like a sigh

    As dawn light closed around me my head was still in gear
    Thinking thoughts of playing more and singing loud and clear
    Trying to reach a friend somewhere and make that person smile
    Maybe pull myself away from that old lonesome mile
    That often comes to haunt me in the morning

    All my friends keep telling me that it would be a shame
    To break up such a grand success and tear apart a name
    But all I know is what I feel whenever I'm not playing
    Emptiness ain't where it's at and neither's feeling pain

    Well now what is going to happen now is anybody's guess
    If I can't spend my time with love I guess I need a rest
    Time is getting late now and the sun is getting low
    My body's getting tired of carrying another's load
    And sunshine's waiting for me a little further down the road​
     
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  16. Blanket Jackson

    Blanket Jackson ¿Qué Hiciste? Silver Supporting Member

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    The other two have text wars? Between each other?

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    Passive aggression ... it's not just for breakfast anymore (since someone finished off all the milk .....)
     
  17. Rick Lee

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    They don't really argue, just tossing ideas and jokes back and forth. But I get included in the group because they usually start with something serious and degenerate from there.
     
  18. Blanket Jackson

    Blanket Jackson ¿Qué Hiciste? Silver Supporting Member

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    This thread reminds me of an Elliott Smith song ....

     
  19. skronker

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    the drummer is the jackass here
    if it is a band then no action is taken until all agree
     
  20. RCM78

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    Band democracies dont work...
     

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