I don't know whether to put this in the guitar section or the bass section, so I'll put it here. I'm into playing metal. I've hit a wall on a 25.5" scale in Std C especially when I go to drop Bb or drop A. The bottom end gets quite flabby. I'm already at 60s and going to a 70 is starting to seem ridiculous. Recently my favorite store had an ESP baritone Viper I'd played around with, but not really yet into the real low tunings I put it on the back burner. It was sweet too, but alas ESP no longer makes it, and it was gone. So suggestions here? I know nothing about these except that the scales are longer and their standard tuning is B-B'. It would be used for that chugging rhythm.