"Baseball bat neck" Exaggerated?

My experience is the opposite. I see lots of hype, marketing towards fat necks. IMO, many of them, especially the ‘90’s-00’s Historic Gibsons, were too big. Fat for the sake of being fat. I own a couple of real 50’s LPs, and while they aren’t thin, they aren’t anywhere near an early 00’s R7.

We may be running in different circles. I’m not sure I know anyone that owns a Kiesel in real life.

 

Biggest I've played was the Epiphone Les Paul Traditional Pro II.

They're MEATY and I did struggle a little bit with it (at the time I was learning Maiden songs).

But I adjusted fine and my 1955I is close to that size, maybe just a bit less meaty.

I prefer thick necks, usually, but I can play everything but wizards. I find thick necks have better tuning stability.

For reference my hand size is considered exactly average.

 

Maybe I haven't been paying attention, but it seems to me that ALOT of folks like a big 'ole fat neck?

 

Yeah, clearly the tgp camp has historically been pro baseball neck, now outside of tgp it's a pretty slim segment but here, a whole nother story.

 

Biggest I've had my little grubby hands around was a Ricky Kelly Barncaster. That thing was the Godzilla of necks. Paul Bunyon would have had a stroke chopping this neck down to size. And there was no trust rod. I don't think one was needed.

 

There's currently a lot of focus, and often is with younger crowds, about faster faster faster.

And people think you can only play fast on thin necks.

Thin necks helps with classical style finger positions ( thumb in the dead center back of neck, fingers directly lined up with 4 frets) like many people use for things like technical shred and metal but so many people use more of a blues-style playing (thumb on top, cupping the neck into the hand, fingers angled for bending strength) that doesn't really require that position and play very fast all the same.

 

Just like people come in all sizes, so do hands. I have pretty good sized hands and need a fatter neck otherwise, they fatigue faster.

The fattest neck I've owned came on a Forshage Neo I picked up here a few years back. It was 1.0" at the nut and 12th fret and was a big U shape. That was too big even for me. I had trouble reaching some chords. I had Chris shave it down to a D shape .95" at the nut. Basically the Gibson 50's profile. Perfect now.

The problem today is, there are no guitars under $2k I've seen that come with a fatter neck as an option. You have to pay a premium, or buy a replacement if it is a bolt-on, to get a fatter neck profile.

 

Spot on I believe. I'm "old school" and quite used to '50s and '60s necks with some "grip" to them. Shallow necks on a neck with a flat radius aren't comfortable to me at all.

Some of the old fat "U" profiles can be a little over the top but many aren't and for me the '50s soft "V" or a '60s large "C" work well as do '50s type Gibson "D" profiles.

 

Most of the guitars I own have big necks (ie. LP R8 big).. I play at exactly the same speed on big necks and thin necks, the limiting factor is always me.
I will never understand where this idea that thin necks are for "speed" comes from.

 

I think any competent player should be able to adjust easily to any neck size .90 or less, with any radius. Honestly, the difference in actual flatness between 9.5 and 14 is hardly noticeable.

 

Agreed. Gibson 50s neck profile is quite comfortable and tastefull neck for me, even I have relatively small hands..
Biggest neck I played I assume was the Kotzen Tele but it was still Ok and loved the guitar..

 

Most "baseball bat" like neck I have experienced was on a '70s Yamaha 12 string hummingbird copy. It's like they literally sawed a louisville slugger in half.

 

This ^^^.

On TGP the chunkier 50's necks are proclaimed the root of all that is good; I'm not sure where you're getting the 'evil' from.

But there's also an inherent internet bias in favor of self-aggrandizement; small-dic--err, "handed," non-tone-loving players, who don't gig often enough to suffer cramps from smaller neck profiles, don't have good technique, never worked for anything...need not apply. I'm exaggerating. A little.

One thing is for sure -- whatever you're selling, there will be buyers wanting a different neck profile.

 

What kind of meat? Beef, chicken, fish or pork?

I dunno... The struggle with me is girth with a wider neck.

 

The thin ‘80s necks makes my hand cramp. I am good with medium to baseball bat. My fave is the Warmoth boatneck.

 

Baseball bats more refer to big round necks.

Wide-fat necks like some Gibsons have will do fine with classical. I had an SG standard with it, I'm not personally a fan. I like deeper C shapes that fill out your hand, personally.

BC Rich tends to walk a very nice line between the two, they are my favorite neck shape.

Fish, it has a scale length after all.