BB pre amp, SIB, singing leads!!!!!

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  1. Cary Chilton

    Cary Chilton Senior Member

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    Hello,
    I want a pedal for singing leads that wont mess with my vintage 100 watt Marshall (super lead mark II) voicing. I want this pedal to add to my Marshall already breaking up ( at least a little) with enough gain on tap with my seymour antiquity buckers. I want that singing, musical feedback that your get with a spring reverb. Slight compression is tolerable.

    I have been HARD at work, made many calls, sent many emails and threads and I have gotten some very Valuable opinions, so thank you all.

    I have ordered a Tim and a timmy for my lower gain needs.

    I have decided on an OCD pedal as well for higher gain stuff and maybe a Hot Cake.

    Recently I am very interested in buying an Xotic pedal, however I am not sure whether to pickup a BB pre amp or the AC boost.

    I have also been recommend to pick up the varidrive by SIB, any other thoughts here on this one?

    I am sure there must other players out there looking for this answer, too! BTW Tomo is A WICKED Jazz player! Nice Sounds TOMO
     
  2. JohnLutz

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    I've had all the Xotics. Still have an RC and BB. Here's my take...

    RC - Acts kind of like an exciter. Step on it an everything sounds bigger and better.

    AC - Flubby low end. Might be alright strictly for leads but it will kill the tight punch of your Marshall on palm muted power chords.

    BB - To my ear this adds distortion plus clean (ala Sparkle drive). It's low end is a lot tighter than the AC. I use it to make my class A 2x12 sound like a 4x12 Marshall.

    The best lead pedal that I've tried is.... you guessed it LDO.

    John
     
  3. Cary Chilton

    Cary Chilton Senior Member

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    I am salivating here ??!! What is an LDO John?
     
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    The tie dyed secret weapon --- Landgraff Dynamic Overdrive
     
  5. Cary Chilton

    Cary Chilton Senior Member

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    So the Langraff shines over and above the BB and the Varidrive?
    wow!!!!! How much are these babies???
     
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    I've heard really good things about the Varidrive. Never tried it though because of size and power.

    Right now I have three overdrives. In the past three months I've had about twenty others. Of all these pedals if I could only keep one, there's no question that it would be the LDO.

    Check your other thread for a link to the site that sells them.

    John
     
  7. Cary Chilton

    Cary Chilton Senior Member

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    does LDO kill the menatones, too?
     
  8. JohnLutz

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    I've had the six knob King of the Britians. It's a cool pedal. It had way too much gain (clipping) and brightness for my needs. The LDO is different but overall I would say more 3 dimensional and alive sounding.

    John
     
  9. Tomo

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    I love those Xotic pedals. They are so versatile for many styles.

    First and last, YOU need to hear it yourself. I am writing my opinion.
    You can use this to understand the product a bit. Not as answer.
    So don't trust my opinion 100%.

    I have tried many many od pedals. But one great thing about Xotic
    pedals that RC Booster won't change original tone at all and you could
    add something missing from your amp.

    RC Booster, I use to boost my volume and a bit bass so that
    when I do slap guitar, sound much bigger. When you do small
    jazz gig, or duo gig, blues gig. Say you have Princeton Reverb.
    You can make it much bigger and full sound. One night, when I
    start with my clean tone, I noticed something really good... then
    I saw my RC was on! Just add great spice. Or end of night
    everybody started playing a bit louder.... Then step on RC booster.
    now you sound like 2 12! Instead 1 10.

    BB Preamp, I demonstrated this at my Tone Merchants clinic back in
    6/4. Now this clinic dvd will available on 9/10 from my website.

    I like BB 's overdrive tone. It got enough singing quality gain, yet
    there is cleanness headroom which is very important for me.
    Otherwise the OD tone is just too much gain and you can hear
    the details on each note you pick. BB preamp also has great
    dynamic touch. You can really express your picking control.
    Very sensitive. Upcoming recording I used mainly my Fuchs ODS
    's OD, but I used these pedals too.

    The OCD is not enough gain for me. Maybe some od rhythm track.
    I can use my BB and roll of my guitar volume I get great natural
    light od sound as well.

    Thank you so much for your comment on my jazz playing.
    I am closet jazz player. I have to work on more!

    This is for you. It's easy chord shapes/sound into jazz standard.
    All super simple chords, just how to apply is the key.


    Simple voice lead top note moving over 1 & 2 strings Strat Jazz

    PS, If you live near Tampa FL, please come down on 8/19.
    I will do my guitar clinic 8pm.

    Tomo
     
  10. Cary Chilton

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    Wow, nice Closet man! heheh I never really bothered to learn jazz. I have studied some theory, but I guess I never really review things my ears are ok. I have been at it for about 20 yrs. I am a rocker at heart; however not a big appreggio fan. Arpreggios can sound flashy, but too much is overkill. Stylistically, I like early EVH all those 2-3 step bends, nobody ever really commits too when covering his songs. Satriani writing, simple, vocal, but his tone isn't very nice EXCEPT for the lumious flesh Giants recordings IMO. Jimi, of course. I would like to learn a little more Jazz for that fusion improv stuff. I can pull it off, but I would like to learn more. I think, with talent and ears, one can fake anything to a point, then you need to study up. I am lazy.

    Are you self taught as well? Or did you go to school or have lessons when you were learning guitar? Would you like recommend some resources to learn more walking B-lines and that quick comping you do? BTW I am Canadian but I am teaching English in Taiwan.
    thanks
    peace
     

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