Hey guys, I've reached a bit of a brick wall at the moment on my search for good tone at low levels. Here's the story in a nutshell. I deal with vintage gear pretty much on a daily basis, so I know back then volume was a big issue due to PA not really being up to par that they are now. Thus some of the greats got their tone by cranking their amps to "11". I am into modern rock, not the screamo junk thats out there, but the good driving guitars that makes you want to crank the radio up and run 90 mph around 285 here in atlanta. (Granted thats only about 5 mph faster than the average driver, but thats another story). Here are my favorite amp tones (no scooped out mids): JCM800 Dimed Splawn Nitro Bogner Uberschall Plexi w/ everything at 10 Here in lies the problem. Being that my current band is pretty much in hiatus at the moment, I have a lot of time on my hands at night once my wife and 3 yr old go to bed. Now I cant very well go crank up one of these amps and get the tone that I want without waking them and the neighborhood. I've tried the modeling route: GT6 - Good board but you spend WAY too much time trying to create a good tone POD2 - Too Digital PODX3 - Played with it briefly at GC, wasnt impressed Vox Tonelab LE - Good amp models, but was just missing something when it came to higher gain, seemed farty Behringer V-Amp Pro - My Favorite, but still was missing the "life" I'd rather not go the software route, that way I am not tied to a computer. I have modded up a Valve Jr Combo with Marshallized mods but to get the crunch you got to crank it. Even with my attenuator on it, its just a touch too loud. What could you guys suggest? I am open to suggestions. If you need to know more info then feel free to ask.