Beginners question regard phono pre

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  1. sam26drum

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    Can any phono preamp connect to any amp? Googled it and i can’t find the answer. Thx
     
  2. Radspin

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    I don’t know about “any amp,” but typically stand alone phono preamps have RCA stereo outputs that would go into a line-level or AUX input of a receiver or integrated amplifier or a preamp that accepts line-level signals.

    A phono preamp can NOT go directly into the input of a power amp.

    High end phono preamps can have balanced XLR outputs that would go into a balanced XLR input.
     
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  3. CheckSix

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    As mentioned, phono cartridge--->phono pre--->preamp--->power amp--->speakers

    Generally speaking, any phono preamp can connect to and drive any preamp.

    Phono cartridge output can vary, depending on whether it is a moving magnet (5 mV) or moving coil (0.2 - 0.6 mV typical). The phono pre takes these tiny signals and amplifies them up to preamp input requirements, around 1V or so. The preamp then amplifies to satisfy power amp requirements to get to its full output. My preamp can output 8V's peak, which will drive any power amp to full output.

    Preamp and power amp can be combined into an integrated amp. Some integrated amps have phono input stages but they are usually not very good but it depends on your preference and what you want.
     
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  4. sam26drum

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    Aah so a phono pre isn’t the same as a preamp. Things just got more expensive There goes my plans with Schiit audio.
     
  5. CheckSix

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    What are you trying to do?
     
  6. sam26drum

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    Just run a record player and two dynaudio speakers. I actually need to back track on that comment. Apparently the Schiit Sys acts as a preamp for only $50
     
  7. CheckSix

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    The Sys is a passive preamp. You need an active preamp.

    Which Dynaudio speakers?

    You need to give us more information, so we can help guide you. ;)
     
  8. sam26drum

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    Dynaudio excite x12, Project debut carbon turntable. Thank you
     
  9. CheckSix

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    okay! A budget integrated amp with a built-in mm phono pre that will work, is the Yamaha A-S301 for $349.99. Assuming your Debut Carbon still has the Ortofon 2M Red moving magnet cartridge, this option will work.
     
  10. sam26drum

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    Yes i have the ortofon 2m red. i had assumed i’d need more power for 150 watts and 4 ohms speakers
     
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  12. Mr.Hanky

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    I have a Project phono box S sitting here if you want it.
     
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    How much you asking?
     
  14. Mr.Hanky

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    How bout a barter?
    It’s only worth $100 or so, got any pedals, clean boost?
     
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    +1 on an integrated amp
    my recco on the cheap would be to buy a used one - cheap as chips on eBay
     

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