Best 10" Speakers for a 59 Bassman Reissue

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  1. DAB

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    I recently put the new TAD 6l6s in my Bassman and a GZ34 rectifier. It sounds great except after turning it up past about 5 the Jensen speakers it came with really "flub" out.

    I have a couple of EMI Legend 105s in a 2x10 cab that I really love with my Bruno Super and my TR Custom. I am wondering if that would be the best replacement type speaker.

    Recent threads have mentioned the new EMI 10" speakers and some others (I believe something being made for Derek Trucks).

    I would appreciate your opinions to help me decide on what to use to replace the Jensens.

    Thanks.....DAB
     
  2. KLB

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    Dave,
    I am glad you like the TAD 6L6 with 5AR4.
    Did you do a rebias?

    I spoke with Mark Bartel of Tone King yesterday. He likes the Emi Copperhead 10 for the Bassman and early Super Reverb tone. That is what Emi recommended to him. He tried nearly every 10" they make and liked those the best.

    We need to get together soon!

    Cheers,
    Ken
     
  3. mountain blues

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    If you want to go the traditional Bassman AlNiCo speaker route, the Weber P10R (10A100) or P10Q (10A125) is a fantastic speaker. They are a big improvement over the Jensen P10R RI's that come with the Bassman RI — especially with the P10Q, you won't hear any of that flub you don't like. You will get the sweet vintage AlNiCo compression when you push them hard. Clark Amps uses the Weber P10Q now in their amps, rather than the 50's style P10R he was using for quite a while.

    To the best of my knowledge, all the other speakers being mentioned — the Legend 105 (a killer speaker for Super Reverbs), the Copperhead and the DT10 — are ceramic speakers.

    All depends on what kind of tone and breakup you're looking for out of your speakers.
     
  4. DAB

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    Ken,

    I don't think my Bassman has the ability to be rebiased. I may be wrong about that but I thought that was one of the primary differences between the standard RI and the LTD.

    I would like to get mine rebiased if you know a way to do that.

    Absolutely let's get together ASAP.

    Dave
     
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    Geoff,

    Thanks for the feedback. I guess I am looking for Hendrix/SRV kind of cleans and enough smooth overdrive to support a TS9 or other similar stombox properly.

    Dave
     
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    I assumed that your Bassman had a bias pot.
    If not, we can put one in it so the bias can be adjusted.
    This way you can optimize for each set of tubes.

    I'll call you.

    - Ken
     
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    With those tones in mind, I think I'd look at the DT10's that CliffC has been telling us about. When someone with Cliff's experience — as well as Ted Weber — says these are one of the greatest 60's–style 10's ever made, I'm perking up my ears, for sure.

    I have two P10Q's and two C10Q's in my Custom Super Reverb (which has a Bassman channel in it), which is a magical tone to work with, though there are times when the AlNiCo compression caves in a tad too much for me. Overall, for what I play now, it is fine, but if I wanted to go heavier and louder, I'd get four ceramics, and at this point, I'd try the DT10's (available through Lord Valve).
     
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    Can't remember the gentleman's name at Weber..Ted? Anyway, email them with your tone specifics and they'll recommend something for you.
     
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    Get the DT-10s from Lord Valve. I'm using them in both tweed
    and blackface setups and they are IMO the best 10" speakers
    available.
     
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    I like the reissue Jensen P10Qs in the RI Bassman. My tech also really likes them, in his original '58 Bassman.
     
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    What is the price of the DT10?

    - Ken
     
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    I paid $65.00 per speaker. Well worth it. The new Jensens
    sound lifeless when compared.
     
  13. DAB

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    Sounds like the DT-10s are worth checking out.
     
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    Who makes the DT-10s?

    I've got the legend 105s in my bassman
    and they sound great.

    I've also heard them in BF Supers and
    in vibroluxs and they also sound great.

    If you've got the money get some of the
    brown sound Hemp cone 10s. I've had great
    results with them as well.

    Good luck and keep us informed.
     
  15. DestroyAllGuitars

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    The DT-10s are made by Weber exclusively for Lord Valve. They
    were based off the schematics for the old Pyle 10" speakers.
    This is the speaker you hear in Derek Trucks' Super Six amp
    and in his Super Reverb amps. The folks at Weber will recommend
    you to this speaker if you tell them that you want the best
    vintage style 50's/60's 10" speaker available.

    You can call Lord Valve (Willie) at: 303-778-1156
     
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    Can you describe your tone with the 105s in your Bassman? I know its subjective but I would be interested in hearing your thoughts.

    I assume your are talking about Tone Tubby's when you mention the hemp cones. How do they differ in tone from the 105s?

    Dave
     
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    Here's a review of the 105:

    http://editweb.iglou.com/eminence/eminence/pages/reviews/reviews/tonequest2.htm
     
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    the DT's sound interesting.

    Did you know the Pyle speakers are still available for $45, (Pyle MH1020).
     
  19. DestroyAllGuitars

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    The pyles that are available now sound nothing at all like the
    pyledriver 10's of days past.
     
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    It figures:(
     

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