BEST 6L6GC's...money not an object?

Discussion in 'Amps/Cabs Tech Corner: Amplifier, Cab & Speakers' started by Mooncusser, Sep 16, 2006.

  1. Mooncusser

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    HI guys,

    I have an interesting question for you folks.
    I have never asked this before because I can't afford them.
    In your opinions as expert techs, what is the very best 6L6GC's ever made that are still available...with money not being an object.
    This will be interesting, and I thank you for your time,
    Mass
     
  2. brad347

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    I'll put in a vote for blackplate RCAs

    I've never heard blackplate GE's
     
  3. Sparky6string

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    +1, but I have heard BP GEs.
     
  4. Blue Strat

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    Blackplate GEs? Never seen 'em but I've only seen about 80,000 NOS tubes.;)
     
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    BP RCA's without a doubt!!!:dude
     
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    +++ BP RCA. Then Grey plate anything old. Then new stuff.
     
  8. Boogs

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    Pssshhht! That's all?

    ...and to think that we take advice from you! :rolleyes: ;)

    By the way, thanks for the advice on your website about the NOS Tesla EL84s and NOS Marconi and Sylvania 6V6s - they've all panned out EXACTLY as you described in their applications. :D
     
  9. Mooncusser

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    OK y'all,

    Now that I have all that feedback, it is obvious to go with either Blackplate GE/ or RCA's.

    A couple questions.....:)

    I should be prepared to spend BUKO bucks on them :eek: LOL!
    How many of them are left out there?

    Also, when you put the best current production 6L6GC, lets say a SED =C= next to the RCA/GE Blackpplates...is there really a $400.00 difference in tone and dynamics, and could someone expound on that for me?

    The biggie...
    Why should I "be prepared to forever thereafter to sing in a falsetto voice and prefer wearing silk jock-straps!"

    Thanks for all your opinions here,
    Mass
     
  10. VaughnC

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    6L6GC RCA blackplates or EL37's.....
     
  11. Sparky6string

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    Not IMHO. I use =C= over my USA 6L6s. There wasn't enough of a difference to me soundwise, although the older ones probably last longer. I like to support new tube makers that make a good product by using it.
     
  12. Blue Strat

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    Yeah, I know....I'm a real slacker;)

    Glad you liked those tubes. What amps did you use them in?
     
  13. Blue Strat

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    Let us know if you find GE blackplates, I seriously doubt that they exist.

    How many are out there? No one knows.

    Do NOS power tubes sound 12 times as good as SEDs? No way (and look what I do for a living:) ). To some people, the last 5% of tonal enhancement is worth any amount. The longevity enhancement is probably about 5:1 for an average pair of NOS and SEDs.

    Not sure about the falsetto/jockstrap comment, but I'll bet it would be funny if I understood it ;)
     
  14. Mooncusser

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    Thanks for being so honest, man.
    I had a set of SED=C= once, and they were the best tubes I have ever heard.
    I had them in an amp I sold to a teenager.
    I was going to take them out and reinstall the stock tubes, but then I thought...Back when I was a teenager, I sure wish someone would help me out like that.
    But i sure miss them, and need to get some more.
    I am down to two sets now...Mesa STR-44's and New Sensor Svetlana's,(and an old set of Ruby's from the early 80's)
    I think an e-mail to Doug's tubes is in order.
    I did get the falsetto/jockstrap thing either, but OTM is a great help to me when I need advice.
    Take care,
    Mass
     
  15. Sparky6string

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    I think you know he's referring to the earlier GE 6L6GCs with the fatter bottles and the darker plates mister smartie. No they're probably not black, just dark grey. When compared to the later GEs they do lok black though. When compared to RCA blackplates they look dark grey.
     
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    I have a pair of SED/Winged =C= 6L6s in my Gries 35 and i'm loving the tones I'm getting from the amp.

    I was very tempted to order some NOS tubes but decided to go with the SED/Winged =C= to save some bucks.
     
  17. Blue Strat

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    No, I didn't know that and I'm not sure how anyone would.

    The earlier gray plate GEs are usually identified by their square getters (if at all), not by the different shade of gray.
     
  18. Sparky6string

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    Uh, ok. The ones I've seen look darker to me.
     
  19. jetlag

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    Depends on the amp. To me RCA BPs are soft in the output and especially in the bass department. The rest of the RCA lore (mids, warmth, richness, etc) lives up to the hype. I think if you want to warm up a bass heavy amp they would be great - like maybe a tweed bassman. Otherwise, I like old GEs alot. Bigger BF fenders? I like Philips 6L6GCs. New tubes - I like the small bottle TADs and the winged Cs. EL37s are nice much like BP RCAs but be cautioned that, besides being $$$$$, they don't have 6L6GC (30W, 500V) ratings. That being said, I did have a used pair last a couple years in a tweed bassman. The only reason they died was because someone spilled a glass of water into the amp.
     

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