Best current production EL34?

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  1. onehandfretting

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    I'll second that.
     
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    I'll third that.

    RA
     
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    Fourth!!!!

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    Whatever Randall Aiken says!
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    I got the winged C's. Sound fine to me. Got a backup set still in the box, haven't needed them yet.
     
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    Ok guys, I just got an EL34 amp(Fargen Mini-Plex) and I'm wondering...where is the best place to order Winged Cs and what really is a Winged C?
    Greg
     
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    A Winged C EL34 is really an SED EL34 which is really a Svetlana EL34, but can't be called that because of stupid marketing games. :NUTS

    Randall Aiken
     
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    Thanks Randall,
    So where's the best place to get 'em?
    Greg
     
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    You might also want to try some NOS 6V6GTs in that amp. That's what I'm running in my Mini-Plex, and I like it a lot. I think I paid around $40 for a pair, which isn't all that much more than a new set of SED/Winged C set.

    BTW, the Winged C/SED tubes are Svetlana tubes. Somehow they lost th erights to the name in the US, so they are now called "SED."
     
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    SED aka "Winged C" aka "the ones formerly known as Svetlana".
     
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    Another vote for the SED "Winged C".
     
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    They're still called Svetlana in Europe afaik.

    I also liked the Electro-Harmonix EL34, at least in the Marshall DSL50 I used to have it sounded a lot like the stock Svetlana/SED tubes.
     
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    I like JJ E34Ls. The Svetlana/Winged C do not have the clarity in the top end that JJs or Mullards have (I guess this could be a good thing in overly bright amps).

    I've been hearing real good things about a fairly recent Chinese offering too, but have yet to try it (I'm always a bit gunshy about Chinese stuff).
     
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    Michael Patrick,
    What are you hearing from the 6V6s that you like better than EL34s? Also, is there a discernable volume drop? Do they move into breakup faster (at a lower volume level)? I have a 6V6 amp already and I know that output tubes alone do not MAKE the sound...alot is in the circuit but I'm lookin for a tone very different from what I have. What I want is classic Marshall or as close as I can get with a 12 watt single ended class A amp. BTW, I'd already have an idea of the tone w/EL34s but I'm waiting on the matching cab.
    Greg
     
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    To my ear, the 6V6s sound a bit smoother in that amp when pushed hard. They tamed the high end a bit and added some more oomph in the low end.

    But don't worry, it still sounds plenty "Marshally" with the 6V6s. I was on a quest to find the sound of my 100-watt NMV Marshalls in a small low-powered package, and the Mini-Plex totally hit it.
     
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    Just remember that the Wing-C is not the same tube as the Svetlana EL34,
    the Wing-C has welded plates, the Svetlana has crimped. Also, for some strange reason the Svetlana has heavier glass and a thicker base,
    but still I choose the Wing-C.
     
  19. Patch

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    Hi BlueHeaven!
    I also have a MiniPlex, and I love the combination EL34/KT88. It gives (to my ears) more headroom, the overdriven sound seems less compressed and the cleans are more "glassy".

    OTOH, I didn't like the 6V6s because it was too smooth for my taste and too compressed when overdriven.

    Enjoy your new amp! :JAM
     
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    Michael Patrick and Patch,
    Thanks guys! All this tube swapping talk...you may be unleashing the mad scientist in me!
    Greg
     

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