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Best Low-Watt Marshall (or clone)?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs' started by Craftmatic, Jan 26, 2008.

  1. Craftmatic

    Craftmatic Silver Supporting Member

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    Just got my first LP (Historic R0) in 30 years and wanted to take the Marshall plunge after being a Fender man my whole life. Looking for home use, low wattage with lots of the famous Marshall crunch at relatively low volumes. I only like tube/valve amps. I want that classic '60's - '70's sound.
     
  2. re-animator

    re-animator Senior Member

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    you definitely want to look into a 1974x (18 watter) clone with a greenback speaker. Its an excellent combination with a les paul. Gets you jimmy page thunder at relatively low volumes.... the good news is that its also probably the 2nd most often cloned vintage amp in history (after the tweed deluxe).

    Try Ceriatone, and Trinity amps.... both provide kits or built amps, and the whole shebang will probably run around $1000.
     
  3. FFTT

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    Reeves Custom 18
    Suhr Badger
    65 Amps London
    Reinhardt
    Category 5
    Blankenship
    Aiken

    The are all based on the 18 watt Marshall circuit using
    EL84's in the power section.

    To get more of a JTM 45/Vox AC30 tone you'll be going up to 30 watts
    some with 4XEL84's some with EL34's and KT 66's

    On a super tight budget, the Ceriatone Marshall Circuit clones
    are also well respected, all hand wired.

    I would personally go with any of the above before overpaying
    for a Chinese built Marshall.
     
  4. Craftmatic

    Craftmatic Silver Supporting Member

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    If you don't mind me trying to save some time in Googleland, which are the lowest priced in that list? I know 65 Amps are pricey.
     
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    re-animator Senior Member

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    all i know is in price vs. quality, reeves would be number 1. They're about $1500, but arguably the most solid amps ever built - which is not a marshall strong suit.
     
  6. FFTT

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    I'd go for the Reeves, or Reinhardt or Blankenship but many many people are buying the Ceriatones on a budget.
     
  7. bosstone

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    Marshall Studio 15
    Fargen Mini Plex II
     
  8. Serious Poo

    Serious Poo Armchair Rocket Scientist Graffiti Existentialist Gold Supporting Member

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    Reinhardt and Fargen make my two favorite 18 watt style amps. Very flexible and great sounding.
     
  9. FFTT

    FFTT Member

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    Saving you a Google :)
    FEATURES
    Handwired All-Tube Circuit
    Single channel operation
    Power Scale master volume control
    High & Low inputs
    Treble, Mid, Bass controls
    Cut control
    Gain control
    Gain Boost switch
    3 way bright/mid boost switch
    Heyboer Transformers
    Hand wired turret board construction
    2ea EL-84 power tubes
    3ea 12AX7 preamp tubes
    Solid State rectifier
    Two 1/4" speaker jacks
    4,8,16 ohm impedance switch
    100v, 120v, 230v

    http://www.reevesamps.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=16&Itemid=43

    PRICES AND DIMENSIONS
    Custom 18 Head
    $1599
    26" (width) x 9" (height) x 8-1/4" (depth)
    Custom 18 1x12 Combo
    $1799
    21.625" (width) x 21" (height) x 11.75" (depth)
    Custom 18 2x12 Combo
    $1939
    27" (width) x 20.5" (height) x 11-3/8" (depth)
     
  10. Craftmatic

    Craftmatic Silver Supporting Member

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    Gee thanks! People are so much nicer hear than on the snobby Les Paul Forums.
     
  11. re-animator

    re-animator Senior Member

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    that's because we're tele players :p
     
  12. Craftmatic

    Craftmatic Silver Supporting Member

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    The Ceritone assembled "British" 18 Watt heads and combos are $1,000 less than the Fargen Mini Plex and the Reeves Custom 18. I'm sure there's a difference but I'm looking for simple and affordable.
     
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    Craftmatic Silver Supporting Member

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    And I play a Strat. But now that I have a fancy-shmancy high-end Les Paul Reissue will I become mean and snobby?
     
  14. FFTT

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    Nik at Ceriatone has a lot of respect, but you also need to consider shipping costs from Malaysia.The added cost of options, the head cab or combo cab. Not a big deal but a consideration.
    Nik does have a few authorized repair shops here if there is a warranty issue.

    You also need to consider how much added value you'd place on a USA
    built Reeves with long standing solid proven roadworthy build quality.
     
  15. Craftmatic

    Craftmatic Silver Supporting Member

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    So you prefer the Reeves over the Fargen. Those are the 2 that I just checked out on the Web.
     
  16. PlexiFuzz

    PlexiFuzz I know karate. Voodoo, too.

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    I hope to answer Fargen Mini Plex MkII after I drive to Sacramento to pick mine up from Ben today ...
     
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    voojo Gold Supporting Member

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    The Fargen Mini Plex Mk2 is a great amp, you can swap tube types to try out different sounds. It comes with (2) EL34s, does all the classic Marshall tones. The head is well built and fairly compact. I can't say enough good things about my Mini Plex, huge bass response for it's wattage. It's powerscaled (as is the Reeves) so you can dial it down so your not tearing heads off. It can be very loud if you need it to. Great amp!!

    Seth
     
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    voojo Gold Supporting Member

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    I think you will love it BAN. While your there see if you can see my Mighty Plex Mk2, Ben said it should be done early next week and shipped. It's PURPLE! Ben said I am one of only two people right now to have the Mighty Plex MK2, he said it turned out so well that he is going to potentially offer it as a released model. Have fun!

    Seth
     
  19. FFTT

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    Fargen is a good builder and the miniplex gets some great tones, but
    you're limited on what you can do with 8-12 watts.
    For studio and small venues mic'd you'll be OK, but it's going to be tough
    with live drums unless you have good stage monitoring.
    As far as tonal versatility for recording, the Fargen is very cool
    due to the cathode biased tube swapping optons.

    The Reeves Custom 18 with power scaling delivers a full 20 watts, but also
    allows you to dime it down for home/studio playing.
    This amp will make you happier when trying to cut through live drums
    and still maintaining a reasonable degree of clean headroom.

    If you're looking at Class A multi-tube amps for home and recording
    also check out the Emery Sound Superbaby. Very popular in some high end studios.


    I have no affiliation with any of these builders.

    I just calls 'em as I see 'em.
     
  20. samtheman

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    Ben said me also at he ship it next week :RoCkIn and its a Mini Plex MkII 40watter, so is it Mighty Plex MkII ???

    /sam
     

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