Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs' started by Toneseeker361, Jan 27, 2012.
Razor Metal. A genre I'm unaware of.
Not sure what you mean by razor metal, but the Marshall valvestate 8100 goes for about 200 bucks and has a very aggressive, high-gain sound. Used by Death and some other bands.
There's a cheap crate model that's pretty popular with newer death metal bands as well (Crate GX130?) . But I haven't tried it.
i mean a very high gain scooped metal sound.
How about any ss amp with a metalzone?
That description sounds pretty aweful...razor highs, no mids, crazy level of gain...
Seriously, why scooped? If you want that sound you obviously won't be playing with others as you will be buried...maybe a POD?
What about a brutal high gain amp which the majority of real metal bands use to sound truely brutal?
The aforementioned Valvestate.
Peavey VYPYR 30
Peavey Ultra or Ultra plus.
..a decent 1x12 amp with an MXR Fullbore METAL pedal
Used Randall T2C and this thread is officially over.
There isn't a Valvestate alive that can cop a Randall Valve Dynamic gain channel, which if eq'd to desire, would knock a maggot off a meat wagon.
Everyone is using these things in death metal because cannibal corpse used em for awhile. What they don't understand is CC has a twelve space rack on each amp too.
basically using it for it's clean power and stability.
Im not knocking the amp. I've owned two. An original when they came out, And revisited one a couple years ago, sold it because I had too many amps the way it was.
Sorry, I apparently didn't even answer your question. I have no clue what razor metal is and Im pretty damn deep in the metal community in my area. But from what it sounds like,Im betting I can peg the tone your looking for.
If your going for a solid state head/cab setup(standard death metal rig) for practice and gigs, I would say find either hughes n kettner warp7, crate gx130, crate vtx200, or a Randall rg100 es, or( dare I say) line 6 spider. and a cheap solid cab. Old peavey ms cabs are tanks. You will have no problems.
Tube amps I would say a b52 at100. Head or combo. These are amazing for the money.
Don't try to get a distortion out of the head for death metal. Just spend $60 on a used metal zone. Or the metal core. I used an MXR full bore metal and it is amazing. Has a gate built in.
Coming from a metalhead and a gearwhore, You can't go wrong with any of this gear.
I will elaborate on why I said line 6 spider, just so I don't have a posse of angry,masked spider-haters with torches and rakes screaming on my lawn.
I ended up with a spider 3 one time as an extra on a trade. The guy said he was getting so much crap from people just for owning it so he threw it in on a trade. I played around with it. And although I had five other heads at this time, I actually ended up using this head for one of the two master guitar tracks on my last bands debut c.d. I also used it live and it was thick, loud, crunchy, reliable, and did exactly what I wanted it to do.
So I got a great recording from a spider, and played many shows in front of one as well, granted I had a mesa cab. But still, the tone was great.
Here's the deal though.. you HAVE to tweak this amp to your liking. The presets are actually much better than most digital fx units I come across but if you want it's best, you must tweak it.
You MUST tweak it.
hope this helps. Because you can buys spiders for days, for very cheap prices.
You know, if you save up another couple hundred you can get the amp nearly all metal bands have used at one point or another, Peavey 5150. They sell used in the $500 range all day long.
If you shop used $300 will get you way more than a practice amp. I'd go for older RG-series Randalls but those appeared way way back and since then Hughes&Kettner, Peavey, Marshall, and a great bunch of others have made some serious contenters. Heck, if it's just for practice, Bathory used a cheap 30W Yamaha practice amp made in the early 1980's in their debut and the tone still sounds like modern more extreme metal. I think at least one classic Black Metal album had guitar tones generated with Marshall MS-2. It mostly falls down to your chops and ear to select and dial in the gear your going to use, not the choice of amp.