best tube for blues/rock

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  1. bloozeman1

    bloozeman1 Supporting Member

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    which tube do you guys prefer for blues and blues/rock. A 6L6, or 6V6? is there much of a difference? I think a 6v6 would break up sooner and be thinner sounding? but I may be wrong. Im looking at wanting to get another amp, I have a DR Z with el84, a DR Z with a 6L6, and am now thinking somethign with 6V6. the Z 6L6 doesnt sound that fat to me
     
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    Echoplexi Silver Supporting Member

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    How about a dr z with kt66 (rt66)? Doesn't get fatter than that
     
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    6v6 for me.... But 6L6's or 5881's wil work nicely. Just not EL84's.
     
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    6v6's are not thin, they have a nice fat chunky tone with lots of warmth. Love 'em.
     
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    Well, I think it depends on type of sound more then style.
    I loooove me some 6L6 for cleans and prefer 6V6 and EL34 for crunch and distorted.
     
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    And for that classic breakup sound, the 5E3 amps, both Fender originals & reissues, and many clones. They're near the top of my list.
     
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    The Deluxe Reverb and 5E3 tweed Deluxe are fat and nasty!

    I have a 5E3 amp, a Gries 35 6L6 blackface amp and I'd like to try the Gries 15. The 15 is a 5F6A/JTM preamp with 6V6 power tubes.
     
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    The circuit is much more important than the tube.

    Stick a 6v6 In a plexi and it still sounds like a plexi.
     
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    amphog Silver Supporting Member

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    What Mike says
     
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    This
     
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    Depends on the volume you need. The 6V6's have a more OD smooth tone up to a point... then give it up. The 6L6 will go further up on headroom. Both are great for rock. I like the best of both worlds JJ 6V6's!
     
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    Quite true. I've done the A/B/C test in an Egnater Tweaker using 6V6s, 6L6s, and EL34s. The tone knobs have a bigger impact than tube swapping does, though there are some slight variations between the different types.
     
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    ^This x100.

    Focusing on a tube when trying to pick a sound won't get you there.
     
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    So true...stick EL84's in a "Fender" circuit and they still sound like EL84's and not Fender.
     
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    Well you just have to try a 6v6 amp to see if you like it. Take my Ric m-8, single ended 6v6 vs say a ibanez tsa15h/cab or a PR or even a Princeton non reverb. The variety of sounds are all over the map, from the raw abbrasive grind of the little Ric to the absolutely stunning full on cleans of the Princeton non reverb. The circuit their in is everything. Plus these days you even have the JJ 6v6 which almost have a 6L6 glassy tone to them.

    Could be you could switch to these in your Z (if voltage not to high) and it could be perfect blues amp, for you.
    https://www.kcanostubes.com/content/nos-jan-philips-6l6wgb-best-price-web-singles-pairs-quartets

    Same goes with v1-2 preamp tube that's feeding your 6l6 Z, swap in a old RCA black plate 12ax7 in v1 or v2, you'll hear a more craggy, blues'ish grind start coming out of it vs say a JJ ecc803.

    It's all about the circuit and the tubes used in that circuit. Also speakers makes a huge difference. To me until you've rolled speakers and then tubes you don't know what your amps capable of. Z not ruff enough for you, put a Alltone 1250/12100 in it, break it in and try it again.
     
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    56Tweed Sub-Octave Member Silver Supporting Member

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    To big mike's point, I stick with Fender inspired circuits when I'm looking for that sound. I've had dozens of 6v6 and 6l6 amps and really like both of them.

    I mostly stick with 6v6 amps at this point in a classic 5e3 or blackface format for raunchy blues. I have a deep love for the blackface Bassman and Super Reverbs for that glassy cleans or singing, edge of breakup sound but I just don't have the space to let those amps breath right now so they go unplayed until I can convince everyone in the neighborhood to leave for a weekend.
     
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    KT-66 Z Route 66
     
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    KT66 be big and sweet, Route 66 great blues rock head
     

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