Big boy delay pedals

Peterbilt1101

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Looking to plunge on a big boy delay pedal. Nemesis, H9, Timeline, etc. price isn't a major concern. I've learned though that if I need to spend 4 hours diving through menus to setup a good delay, I'm out. I need a good tape echo delay, a lo fi delay, and an Edge style delay. That's about it. I'll still have an analog delay to go with it.

What are your favorites for getting multiple good sounds without brain cramps?
 

thesooze

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If you want an easy interface, go Nemesis.

If you want more control over parameters but nothing too crazy, go Timeline.

If you want iOS/Android integration for tweaking sounds, go Nemesis.

I would not recommend the H9 or DD-500. These two were very cumbersome to use due to deep menu diving on the Boss and being tied to a phone on the Eventide.
 

Peterbilt1101

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If you want an easy interface, go Nemesis.

If you want more control over parameters but nothing too crazy, go Timeline.

If you want iOS/Android integration for tweaking sounds, go Nemesis.

I would not recommend the H9 or DD-500. These two were very cumbersome to use due to deep menu diving on the Boss and being tied to a phone on the Eventide.
Thanks this is helpful. In your opinion, which sounds better between the nemesis and timeline and why?
 

thesooze

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Thanks this is helpful. In your opinion, which sounds better between the nemesis and timeline and why?
It's a tough decision for me. I'm very used to the Timeline after 6 years of non-stop use. I love the sounds. 100% happy with it.

The Nemesis is also very good, and has twice the algorithms with more coming. It's being updated like crazy while the Timeline has been idle for a good bit.

There are algos I prefer on the Timeline (tremolo, lofi, digital) and algos I prefer on the Nemesis (noise tape, oil can, helix).

I much prefer having access to all the parameters and editing on the pedal itself without having to grab my phone to access them.

I think Source Audio's preset sharing is ace, and a huge part of what makes that community stick together (along with stellar company communication and collaboration).

So there you go! I really enjoy both, and I think they have clear pros and cons, at least to me! :D
 

olejason

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Timeline sounds great and is really easy to dial in. I also have the DD-500 and like it a lot for all the weird sounds it can do but it does require tweaking and reading the manual. Most people on this forum will recommend the Nemesis, it also sounds really good. The phone editing is a big turnoff for me but you may enjoy it.
 

broken_sound

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After an hour of use I got very comfortable with the Timeline. Very intuitive functions and it sounds GREAT!
 

Peterbilt1101

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It's a tough decision for me. I'm very used to the Timeline after 6 years of non-stop use. I love the sounds. 100% happy with it.

The Nemesis is also very good, and has twice the algorithms with more coming. It's being updated like crazy while the Timeline has been idle for a good bit.

There are algos I prefer on the Timeline (tremolo, lofi, digital) and algos I prefer on the Nemesis (noise tape, oil can, helix).

I much prefer having access to all the parameters and editing on the pedal itself without having to grab my phone to access them.

I think Source Audio's preset sharing is ace, and a huge part of what makes that community stick together (along with stellar company communication and collaboration).

So there you go! I really enjoy both, and I think they have clear pros and cons, at least to me! :D
Thanks. Is the dtape algorithm on the timeline same as the el cap? Or different? I've played an el cap before and loved it.
 

apoyando

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All the suggestions seem spot on to me BUT you might consider
1)If you like the basic sound of the delay engines you might not need to edit much at all except simple parameters such as mix etc. Therefore I would certainly listen to the delays if you have a local dealer that carriedsome of these.
2) since you mentioned you need a few types of delays consider which pedals might be easiest to switch programs for live use... both the Timeline and the Boss how direct footage switching between two or three different delay settings...
3. Also I would not discount a pedal simply because external computer or iOS system is an easier way to program it. chances are once you have the delay set the way you like it you're done… And again it's very possible that a lot of the preset programs would handle your needs with very little editing.The H9 software has a graphic interface and is very simple to use ..virtual knobs...
 

Black_Label

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Having had all of those, I think the DD-500 is the best of the bunch. It has the best interface and is the easiest to use while still giving you the ability to deep dive and have an insane amount of control. The sounds are all about equal with a Timeline being good for ice and sparkly type delays. The DD-500 is great all around and has the best digital delay of the bunch. Using an EP pre with it, I've got a patch that nails my Echoplex. The Tera Echo stuff and dual delays are pretty cool as well.
 

Unchained81

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Stay FAR away from a Zoom pedal then. Menus that go for days....a massive pain in the ass to learn and operate.
 

mdmack

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Any of the super delays you go with will take time to learn the interface. I have been using the DD-500 since it came out and I can dial in a preset as fast as anyone can on their timeline or nemesis. did it take time to learn how to navagate the menus, of course it did and it will with any pedal. All of the super delays sound good and can for the most part cop most any sound from the others, but you have to figure out which one you like the way it looks/operates the best and stick with it until your comfortable with it. For me I like the screen and the EQ options on the DD-500 better than the timeline, and I was not crazy about having to use my phone/ secondary functions (for stereo operation) to deep edit the nemesis. Like I said though they all make great sounds and your going to have to take time to learn the pedal, but once you do its not hard to get sounds quick.
 

Kluch

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I think there are a lot of good options. I can only comment on the nemesis. I bought it about a month ago and it sounds every bit as good as I expected. Haven't really dug into the app much yet but just in the stock sounds I quickly found a great sounding tape, analog and clean .8th digital delay.

Edit: I've played the dd-500 in stores a couple of times. Seemed like it would take some tweaking to get it to where I wanted. That said, I'd like to pick it up in the future.
 

TCMx3

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I love my Timeline. It's my desert island pedal for sure.

I have found it pretty intuitive, all things considered. My Reverb is the Eventide Space and I consider their approach more complicated.

On the Timeline, there are really only a few menus you have to go through when setting up your presets and the rest you can control from the top. Eventide I'm still working through it works similarly it just can be hard to remember what does what whereas with Strymon everything is really obvious if you just put your thinking cap on.

For me it's 1. Timeline 2. H9/Timefactor but that's just my preference.
 

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El Capistan

Lots of features, simple to use, sounds incredible. The hidden functions are not as hard to figure out as people make it seem. Just hold down the two foot switches and all of your knobs now have secondary functions.
 
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lonelylooper

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El Capistan

Lost of features, simple to use, sounds incredible. The hidden functions are not as hard to figure out as people make it seem. Just hold down the two foot switches and all of your knobs now have secondary functions.
el Cap all the way. I've tried em all and the el Cap has consistently been the winner. It's just fallen from favor on TGP (not the flavor of the week anymore).
Haters gonna hate (not really sure why?). I go though a lot of pedals and that is the ONE that never goes away.
My 2 cents
 




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