Big Muff Pi NYC RI

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  1. JJexp

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    Hi, I was wondering if anyone out there knows what the current NYC Big Muff Pi reissue is based on. Does it use ICs for the fuzz or ?
    The olds ones have always been kinda dodgy as far reliability so I'm considering a RI. Thoughts?
     
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    i think its based on ICs, but it may be germanium diodes. Frantone actually designed them. Either way, i find they are pretty faithful to the "original muff tone."
     
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    Thanks, that's what I wanted to hear. Anyways at that price, it can be nothing but fun.
     
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    highly recommended pedal, especially at that price...you really can't go wrong, and Frantone did indeed design it
     
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    Not entirely sure but I think the little big muff is supposed to be the exact same circuit (although when I played a NYC and LBM side by side the LBM had more output volume). I love my LBM; it sounds huge and makes me think of Sonic Youth whenever I step on it. It's cheaper and built in a much better enclosure, for what it's worth...
     
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    the current big muff uses two diode clipping stages in the feedback loop of the gain stages. it uses silicon diodes for clipping.

    i made a thread explaining a mod i did to my NYC big muff involving diodes. check it out!
     
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    The LBM sounds like a cross between a Ram's Head BMP and the green Sovtek BMPs. The one thing I've ascertained about muffs is that it's all a matter of taste, but the LBM is my favorite of the commonly available E-H muffs at this point. It's a really solid muff, sounds great, and addresses pretty much all of the shortcomings of the larger BMPs.

    The NYC RI, incidentally, is my least favorite. Not enough teeth there.

    Not that you asked for any of that, necessarily...
     
  8. JJexp

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    I've heard about the LBM, is it as fuzzy as the BMP??
     
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    the NYC uses transistors, not IC, as well as 2 silicon diode clipping stages, as has been previously mentioned. i haven't cracked open a LBM.
     
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    there are two versions of the LBM.
     
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    you mean one, the original and two, the new reissue right?
     
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    Nope, there is the first little big muff (newest version 2005) that is sustain tone and volume, and then there is the latest little big muff which is volume tone and sustain like its big brother. The older version sustain, tone and volume has more gain, day and night difference way more gain. different circuit.
     
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    both modern LBM's are the same circuit.
    the LBM sounds similar to a ramshead muff and quite different than the NYC muff.
    the nyc muff is a transistor muff with two diode clipping stages as previously stated.

    the current NYC muff is the same as the one out in the 80's btw. 3003 edition.
     
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    i had both looked at the boards and there was more caps on the new LBM vts and the older lbm stv had less caps, it was different, and it had wayyyyy more gain than the newer LBM.
     

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