Bigsby install on Casino?

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  1. onemoretime

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    I was yhinking about putting a Bigsby on my IBJL Casino. I have a B70 (tension bar style) and was wonderng about how they are installed on a full hollow. Are they just screwed into the top?

    I thought full hollows all used the non-tension nar Bigsby's which just attach to the rim of the body and float on the top.

    I am not crazy about drilling holes in the top to try it out. Could I "float it" by running the strings over the tension bar instead of under?

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  2. Zuhzuhzombie!!

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    I had a Casino with a B70 that was screwed into the top.
     
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    A lot of them get a B7/B70, but you might also be able to use a B3. I've also seen Casinos/330s with a B6. Given that the bridge is in a fixed position and doesn't rely much on the Bigsby for tension, I would try a non-tension bar Bigsby first.
     
  4. Bossanova

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    Mine is screwed into the top, it was like that when I got it. I certainly wouldn't do it to an IBJL unless you really don't care about resale.
     
  5. Don A

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    A Casino should have a Bigsby with a tension bar due to the low neck angle (strings low to the top). A more typical hollow body with a floating bridge has a steeper neck angle with the strings much higher over the top and don't require a tension bar.

    People install Bigsbys without tension bars on Casinos with good results though the tension bar is recommended.
     
  6. gmann

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    But then you turn it into a George Harrison model, which never existed, but is ultimately a cooler guitar IMO.
     
  7. Bossanova

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    Preaching to the choir there, as that's what I've got (an Elitist in sunburst with a bigsby) but, most people would get an IBJL as a tribut to John. Especially if it's the natural color.


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    you'd have to go with a B7 to do this, but the vibramate mount system works very well on thin-lines and you can use even if the guitar is a full hollow where putting studs/screws is inviting disaster. if you decide to take it off there's no mods left behind.
     
  10. onemoretime

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    You lost me there Gimpy. How does a vibramate benefit an install on a full hollowbody with no tailpiece studs?
     
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    Maybe that would make sense on a Dot/Sheraton/335 type where the stop piece's studs go straight into the center block, but it sounded like the OP specifically didn't want to drill more holes in the top of the body, the guitar at hand being a Casino(?).

    Just sayin'.
     
  12. Jayyj

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    I have B6s on my MIJ Casino and my old ES330. I prefer the feel of the B3 / B6 to the B7 and they can be installed without drilling holes in the top of the guitar - in fact with a bit of lateral thinking you can get round drilling any new holes at all. How easy it is to get a B6 to work on a Casino depends on the neck set of the individual guitar - my Casino has a very shallow neck angle and I ended up removing some material from the underside of the Bigsby to claw enough break angle for everything to play well. Gibson actually offered the B3 as an option on the earliest ES330s, but quickly switched to the B7 as a safer option. But you can generally get a B3 / B6 to work well with a bit of fiddling.
     

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